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Author:  Zigara [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Tough one
Beautiful girl, have her in fb friends, and shes double beuty in real life... Saw her yesterday in a bar during our pause on university, we r not on same university, but we r next to each other, and there is caffe where all students go out during the day.

Problem to open her in large group of people, i know its really tough, nearly impossible, i need to make a good first impression to her female friends and to her male friends. I dont know anyone from that group, that would make my approach a bit easier.

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Im thinking of sending her my number over a waiter at the momment when im going to leave a caffe, with some note. Next problem, why would she even boder sending me a text message, she doesnt know me, i know shes not avanturistic kind of person, for sure, my friend used to go out with her, cause they had common friend, they were budies.
In that note i need to say something that will make her send me a txt msg, something that she would like to know about me. Or is this bad way of interacting with her.
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She will NEVER stay alone in caffe, and thats the hard thing.


FB aproach, dont like that idea, but it seems that will have more chance of succeding, dont know why, but if im going to send her a msg on fb, i need to send it tonight as long as she rememebers me from yesterday.

Sorry for my bad English i know i suck :D
Author:  breedlove465 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
Sending a note over with a waiter is a terrible idea. Just suck it up and open all of her friends. Then isolate and escalate.
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
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Im thinking of sending her my number over a waiter at the momment when im going to leave a caffe, with some note. Next problem, why would she even boder sending me a text message, she doesnt know me, i know shes not avanturistic kind of person, for sure, my friend used to go out with her, cause they had common friend, they were budies.
In that note i need to say something that will make her send me a txt msg, something that she would like to know about me. Or is this bad way of interacting with her.

Seriously... the shit people come up with.

How can you think this would be a good idea? And why are you overcomplicating the hell out of simply asking a girl out?

Smile, say hi... Start talking... That's it.
Author:  Zigara [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
I think thats better idea then oppening her friends(lots of males , few females) who are sitting on closed table, thats preety lame... shes sitting in caffe,and i cant just pull over there a chair and sit, im asking wron people here :)

I ll wait someone smarter, and about that, how i should suck it up, and aproach i would look like a fcking freak aproaching some group of friends who are chatting laughing etc in the middle of the day :)
I have selfcnfdn dont worry, but put your self in a position of them, and you chat and laugh and just some random guys comes to 7-8 ppl, your friends and you and open them... FREAK!


And i think that note idea would work better, had lots of succses with that one... Its all about from person to person how you act when waiter point at you and says to girl thats the guy who send you this...

I ll wait someone more exp i see ur not one of them :)
Author:  breedlove465 [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
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I think thats better idea then oppening her friends(lots of males , few females) who are sitting on closed table, thats preety lame... shes sitting in caffe,and i cant just pull over there a chair and sit, im asking wron people here :)

I ll wait someone smarter, and about that, how i should suck it up, and aproach i would look like a fcking freak aproaching some group of friends who are chatting laughing etc in the middle of the day :)
I have selfcnfdn dont worry, but put your self in a position of them, and you chat and laugh and just some random guys comes to 7-8 ppl, your friends and you and open them... FREAK!


And i think that note idea would work better, had lots of succses with that one... Its all about from person to person how you act when waiter point at you and says to girl thats the guy who send you this...

I ll wait someone more exp i see ur not one of them :)
Yep, you don't need our help. You got serious game, lol. As long as you have a waiter handy.
Author:  Zigara [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
Thats an awesome move, i see your lack of game... with a helmet of a motrcycle in your one hand, gesture her to call you with other one on way out, and make as much noise as you can throttling motorcycle ;)
And i see i cant find help from ppl like you, so i ll delete post after you read this, hope this will help you a bit :)
How can waiter be helpful
Author:  HIMPRESSIVE [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
You need to show value. Somehow start talking to the male friends. Don't pay attention to her. Concentrate on befriending them. Talk about sports...make them laugh...do something other than pass a note. When she sees that her friends have accepted you in their conversation, she will be more open to your advances.
Author:  oceanx [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
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I think thats better idea then oppening her friends(lots of males , few females)
Then don't open her friends. You go up to her and say "hey I'd like to talk to you for a sec, come here" and extract her from the table and have a nice little convo with her where you take her #. Who gives a fuck about the friends etc. You're a busy and important man - you're not a mouse - you don't have time to speak with them; you're not interested in them anyway; you're interested in her. Make that interest known or forget the whole thing.

Another option is to sit back and wait until they are done chatting/eating/drinking and when she gets up approach her so you can isolate her and talk to her for a minute.
Author:  Zigara [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
I would have done this what you have told me but she didnt come to that caffe shop... Its across the road from our univesities, and i was literally there every day to friday from monday after my university and during my breaks, but she didnt stop by...

So what am i supposed to do now, contact her on fb, or you have some better idea?

More about this girl... Shes from Macedonia, and lives here for years, have some trouble speaking our main language, shes shy and withdrawn in society, but just because shes like that i kind a like her, not kind a, i like her.. And plus shes hb9 for sure...

Cheers
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
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I would have done this what you have told me but she didnt come to that caffe shop... Its across the road from our univesities, and i was literally there every day to friday from monday after my university and during my breaks, but she didnt stop by...

So what am i supposed to do now, contact her on fb, or you have some better idea?

More about this girl... Shes from Macedonia, and lives here for years, have some trouble speaking our main language, shes shy and withdrawn in society, but just because shes like that i kind a like her, not kind a, i like her.. And plus shes hb9 for sure...

Cheers

We've all told you what to do. It just wasn't what you wanted to hear.
Author:  Zigara [ Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
I wrote a post after i saw her in caffee on monday...
I wanted to open her but she didnt stop by, so you cant say i wasnt willing to do what i got as a suggestion from you guys :) :)
Author:  oceanx [ Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
Swing by the shop once in a while. If she's there, open her. If she isn't there, open other girls! If you don't see her for a week or two, FB her as a last resort I suppose.
Author:  translation [ Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
In order of best to worst. The options you've presented so far :

Fb message
Direct open in front of friends
Send note to waiter

It's a tough one. But I can tell you everybody is right about the note being the worst way. Having said that, I DO NOT think direct is the way to go either.

People make it sound simple. "Oh just go up in front of her 10 friends and just say, "hi".
That isn't very natural and it may work if your very confident and ultra cool and sexy and smooth. But not every guy is like that. At least not yet. If you're on this forum asking for help, I doubt that's you either.

Woman can sense every bit of body language, eye movement, facial expressions that will cue them into realizing that you're anxious or nervous or not totally confident. Add to that there will be ten eyes instead of just the girls. It's just too high pressure a situation.

The best way to do it, is far by to wait for an opportunity and when you get it, make conversation with her. At the same time look for opportunities actively. Make friends with her friends, ask your friends who know her to do something and invite her.

That's the thing most people don't realise about socializing at work and uni. Places where you frequently see the same people, you hardly ever should be opening direct. Once in a while sure, but direct is such a high risk high energy thing where you have to be in such a good state etc .....

You're in uni. Opportunities will ALWAYS be there. If you ever go to the same coffee shop as her. Sit down close by. That immediately opens ur chanes up. If you're in line and she's in front of you. Your big chance is right there. Just say something like "wow this queue is long, they need more staff for sure" or if she ordered a lot of stuff "you sure you got everything ?"

The takeaway here. Consciously focus on looking for opportunities to start up a light conversation, and grab the bull by the horns when you do. At the same time, DO NOT do anything to lower your value before that, you want to preserve it. Fb chat, sending note, opening direct and getting shut down. That is all going to kill your vale to some degree.

Good luck,
Translation.
Author:  Zigara [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
I have already forgotten about this post, too many girls came after her in my life, i even forgot about her :D

Thanks guys anyway :)

Whos not here you can do it without him :D
Thats a saying our country :)
Author:  oceanx [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tough one
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I have already forgotten about this post, too many girls came after her in my life, i even forgot about her :D
You didn't get hung up on one-itus. Congratulations :D
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