PUA Forum :: How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!

This is what this 2 exercises is all about - delivering sexual message on a subconscious level.

Shifting from indirect game to direct seems pretty natural to me. I have done the same thing. You go indirect because you feel insecure and by indirectly approaching you have plausible deniability for your actions. Cant really get rejected.

With time when your self-esteem and your confidence get bigger, you feel that indirect is too slow, takes a lot of time. So you just move to direct - and thats where your mind gets blown off. Not only because it is faster, it is you can break all the rules you learnt in indirect game and still get laid.

However without the confidence you cant really get direct, its not gonna work.

Johnny Maddick, The Man, The Legend

Author:	JohnnyMaddick [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:	How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!
Being not able to easily start a fun interaction or a small talk with a stranger is the problem of a lot of the modern society men. We are taught to be like that, this way is better for governments, police, church, easier to control the society. Unfortunately, attraction is in the absence of logic, in childishness, in playfulness, in fun, the things that create emotions. We are attracted by the older parts of our bodies that dont have a language. Language is in the neocortex - the very new part of our brain, that is not responsible for attraction. Therefore * 1: You cannot attract by simply logical conversation * 2: it doesnt matter what you talk about if you invoke emotions in her. Any kind of emotions, the stronger the better, since emotions shut down her conscious mind and shift her into animalistic state where you talk with your bodies. You dont even need to talk about anything if you can create emotions. Do you talk about science, philosophy, psychology, politics, religion during sex? NO. Talking about these thing wont get you there either. Then again, you can talk about it if you know how to deliver energy, emotions, and get you outside of her social frame. Here is 2 mind shifting exercises for you: 1. Dont say anything. Use your hands body, objects around you, and let her know this way that she is attractive and you want to have a date (or sex, if you feel adventurous) with her. 2. Talk to her in a language she doesnt understand. I normally say: "I just had a conversation about nonverbal communication and that words carry only 10% of the message. Do you agree? Lets have a short experiment. Talk to me in a language that I dont understand, and I will talk to you in a language that you dont understand. And then lets see if we could guess the message. But the message must be really strong". (If she doesnt speak anything foreign, proceed alone). Then you give her a description of how you would take her home and had wild sex with her in details. See if she could guess. Dont be afraid to tell her you were talking about sex with her, since this is the strongest message and she should have been able to get that. Both instruments give you plausible deniability for touching her, thus kino escalation. The second routine is like a nuke for her brains, use with caution!! Wear protection, Johnny Maddick

Author:	JackZero [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!
I don't know about this because it sounds a little bit gimmicky. Almost as if you are trying to joke your way into a date or sex. I understand you are trying to do something to get her to pay attention to you and as you say evoke emotion. My issue is that you start off acting as a joke, you in turn have to spend time trying to convert her from seeing you as silly to seeing you as sexual. Why not move straight to sexual? I've been a big time supporter of indirect game for quite a few years, but I have learned there is nothing like being direct. You see a girl at a party, on the street, at a club and you want to fuck her. Approach her with the attitude that you are going to fuck her because why shouldn't she want to fuck you. You don't have to say those exact words but she's going to feel it. She's going to read that body language from you and your words will be much more congruent than any routine. She's going think you are genuine, interested in her, and she'll love how bold you are. Here's what I think when men say they don't like small talk: I want pussy but don't want to put in any effort to getting it.

Author:	JohnnyMaddick [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!
This is what this 2 exercises is all about - delivering sexual message on a subconscious level. Shifting from indirect game to direct seems pretty natural to me. I have done the same thing. You go indirect because you feel insecure and by indirectly approaching you have plausible deniability for your actions. Cant really get rejected. With time when your self-esteem and your confidence get bigger, you feel that indirect is too slow, takes a lot of time. So you just move to direct - and thats where your mind gets blown off. Not only because it is faster, it is you can break all the rules you learnt in indirect game and still get laid. However without the confidence you cant really get direct, its not gonna work. Johnny Maddick, The Man, The Legend

Author:	JackZero [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!
Quote: This is what this 2 exercises is all about - delivering sexual message on a subconscious level. Shifting from indirect game to direct seems pretty natural to me. I have done the same thing. You go indirect because you feel insecure and by indirectly approaching you have plausible deniability for your actions. Cant really get rejected. With time when your self-esteem and your confidence get bigger, you feel that indirect is too slow, takes a lot of time. So you just move to direct - and thats where your mind gets blown off. Not only because it is faster, it is you can break all the rules you learnt in indirect game and still get laid. However without the confidence you cant really get direct, its not gonna work. Johnny Maddick, The Man, The Legend I have to call this bad thinking. Just because someone approaches indirect is not because they need plausible deniability or they feel insecure. You can't even get rejected until your intentions are known. Indirect is for sidestepping a woman's defenses. Maybe it's to be funny and safe. Maybe to achieve higher value. Some of the best PUA's thrive on indirect and have massive confidence. Regardless of indirect or direct, you need confidence to do it.

Author:	JohnnyMaddick [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How to approach a girl if I Hate small talk!
I am generalizing. On average, people start with indirect and move to direct. I dont know anyone who did the opposite (I am not saying this is not possible). Of course there are situations where indirect would work better. Then it would always require a longer time.

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Author:	emsjvh [ Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:44 pm ]
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be direct.

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