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| Author: | foreverthyear [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Study Area - Corner of Eye, IOI, and...FREEZE |
So the thread topic sums it up. More info below - or just fire off general advice if you don't feel like reading. Sometime lurker first time poster. I'm what might be considered a bit of an older guy (31) for where I'm at. I can still pass for a few years younger however, tend to skinnyfat rather than full-on chub, get to the gym some of the time and work some manual labour jobs, and you can't tell I'm getting into silverback territory except in oblique lighting. It's effectively senior year at uni for me (long irrelevant story that reads like a bluesman's prerecording career in here) and being really fucking attached to the sweet, sweet nectar of GPA that I am finally beginning to taste; I frequently find myself in the quietest and overall least conversational library on campus. Now, what I want is some kind of simple, workable opener to roll with when I pick up conventional indications of interest from girls who come in and sit down next to me. Overall these are virtually all 6s and 7s with the occasional 8. For IOIs I would say I'm seeing hair and shoe play, glances, that kind of thing. (won't get the eye fucking because I am semi-lasered on my reading - I want that GPA, you understand.) My energy/inner game took a bit of a hit over the summer working for a company that went on a dime from a very good student job to a bit of a hell hole, and I would say I am seven to ten days behind getting on top of my school work to the point that I get my bounce back. I tend to a sort of random energy that comes off slightly blue collar with white collar people, wtf-are-you-doing-here white collar with ghetto people, and wtf-is-wrong-wth-you ghetto with blue collar people, try to stick to tidy polos or tees, jeans, new clean sneakers while on campus; stubble and brushcut guy. I tend to get accused of overthinking things and not thinking things through with roughly equal frequency. So that's me. The main thing to consider with the nuance of my request is that these should be things that work at a half whisper when the target is within a meter, seated, and clearly and deliberately trolling for attention. I've got some good indifference going on - if I shit it on this kind of game, I'm telling myself it's because I was focussed on school, and if I keep dotting my Ts and crossing my Is, facepalming, and doing it over again the right way, I know I'm going to do dope there. I just figure, this is like being next to a renewable resource - I should build a windmill and some solar cells and start getting something extra out of it. My inner game IS going to pick up, hopefully I can hit a sweet spot before fall gets too wintery. I could also use some moves for walking different directions outside. I tend to be horrible at projecting that I am actually doing something when I'm not and I'd like to just kind of work better game naturally into my day-to-day routine; if I don't become Mystery or Neil Strauss I can live with that; I'd just like to get up from a 0% chance of getting girls incidentally on campus - which is frankly where my behaviour puts me now - to any probability better than that. Thanks up front guys (girls?). |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quiet Study Area - Corner of Eye, IOI, and...FREEZE |
Whisper that you came for the free concert, but you think you may be in the wrong place... Don't use a canned, crappy line, man. You do not need an opener. It seriously doesn't even matter what you open with. Just try and look like you've made an effort and make sure there's no food on your face. Shake her hand and say hi while you smile. ^ This is way more effective than a silly line or a routine. Canned material will get you 5 seconds in... then what? |
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| Author: | foreverthyear [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quiet Study Area - Corner of Eye, IOI, and...FREEZE |
So I'm thinking I probably also want to put a bit more effort into overcoming objections ("I'm really busy" SHOULD have been met with "I'm really flexible" or "What about after thesis revisions?" - I do drink with a couple of PhD guys in between their papers) or try to keep that in mind. Baby steps. Allowing myself to get shot down with a real smile on both our faces has to be a step in the right direction. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quiet Study Area - Corner of Eye, IOI, and...FREEZE |
Quote: So I'm thinking I probably also want to put a bit more effort into overcoming objections ("I'm really busy" SHOULD have been met with "I'm really flexible" or "What about after thesis revisions?" - I do drink with a couple of PhD guys in between their papers) or try to keep that in mind. Baby steps. Allowing myself to get shot down with a real smile on both our faces has to be a step in the right direction.
Allowing yourself to get shot down is the wrong mindset. You go in knowing that you won't get shot down.
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| Author: | foreverthyear [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quiet Study Area - Corner of Eye, IOI, and...FREEZE |
So I need to start to "assume the sale" as my second step prior to beginning to work on objections? Thanks both of you guys as well. (TL;DR: I guess I'm maybe just a little too happy to even be DOING ANYTHING. I was doing nothing for this up until just after I started this thread. I had felt and acted like I was depressed from mid-June, when weeks of pointless negativity and criticism got to me; to mid August, when I finally dragged myself out of that evil shit hole and just started working a million hours for a different guy. Through the first half of September I stressed myself into delusions dealing with admin headaches. From where I've been, just getting myself in the mental space to even approach girls, even if poorly and with less than perfect energy, seems like a lot more of an accomplishment than it probably is. I'm sick and tired of sucking at this shit. I want to keep making this change.) |
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