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Author:  ZippityZippity [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  How to Demonstrate Value with being a Tool
Hey everyone, new to the forums here and really looking forward to receiving some great advice!

So question, how do you demonstrate value without just openly bragging about yourself? Obviously I want to bring up my talents to women when I'm first meeting them, but the type of women I go for would not like a guy who just brings up his accolades out of the blue, not to mention I wouldn't really want to do this anyways. So do you like to sway the conversation to your strong points? Do you just wait to do that till later?

I hope I was clear in describing my predicament. Thanks!
-ZZ
Author:  drunkenlaborer [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to Demonstrate Value with being a Tool
Hullo sir and welcome. You will find mostly (90%) scholars and gentlemen here.

#1) Are you afraid to brag? Why? Are you afraid you will lose her approval? For the next 10 days you should practice trashing the approval of EVERY girl that comes your way. The only rule is that you absolutely CANNOT break eye contact. By day 5 those girls will number close for you. By day 8 they will also immediately setup day 2s for you. Consider it a fun personal challenge. That should tickle you inside by getting those approval seeking shackles off your wrists. Consider it now...what freedom yeah!!!

#2 The concept you are working on is called DHV, demonstrating high value. You can search DHV and find most of what you need to know here.

#3 I'll make this easy. brag. You are no longer shy. You are proud of it. You worked for it man! (jedi mind trick) Now spread your feathers you peacock and fly!!! uh peacocks dont fly :? Never be ashamed of who you are.

I am /33t hacker, deadly competitive USPSA shooter, motogp racer, business owner, who loves to eat p--sy and make women ejaculate!!!!

see how easy that is? you try now 8)
Author:  ZippityZippity [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How to Demonstrate Value with being a Tool
Lol for starters, the title of this thread should read: "How to Demonstrate Value WithOUT being a Tool"
Quote:
Hullo sir and welcome. You will find mostly (90%) scholars and gentlemen here.

#1) Are you afraid to brag? Why? Are you afraid you will lose her approval? For the next 10 days you should practice trashing the approval of EVERY girl that comes your way. The only rule is that you absolutely CANNOT break eye contact. By day 5 those girls will number close for you. By day 8 they will also immediately setup day 2s for you. Consider it a fun personal challenge. That should tickle you inside by getting those approval seeking shackles off your wrists. Consider it now...what freedom yeah!!!

#2 The concept you are working on is called DHV, demonstrating high value. You can search DHV and find most of what you need to know here.

#3 I'll make this easy. brag. You are no longer shy. You are proud of it. You worked for it man! (jedi mind trick) Now spread your feathers you peacock and fly!!! uh peacocks dont fly :? Never be ashamed of who you are.

I am /33t hacker, deadly competitive USPSA shooter, motogp racer, business owner, who loves to eat p--sy and make women ejaculate!!!!

see how easy that is? you try now 8)
Hey! Thanks for your response man! As for your comments:

1) I don't really think it's a fear of bragging in and of itself (and this very well could be a personal thing I need to work on changing), but when I hear someone solicit information about themselves without any prompt, I'm usually like "What a tool." Now this does not mean no one can ever say anything about attractive about themselves, but there's a difference between:

Guy walks up to a girl, opens with: "Hey, I drive a Porsche."

and

Guy walks up to girl, introduces himself, they begin to converse over drinks, she starts talking about cars, and guy contributes to the conversation by: "Well, yeah I drive a Porsche, and believe me, it costs me more to replace that then it costs you lol"

So, maybe I should have rephrased that better, but I'm more interested in how to subtly DHV rather than just throwing it in people's faces whether they want it or not.

2) Thanks for the heads up!

3) My response here kind of ties back into my response for (1). I have no problem talking about myself, but I always make it a priority to treat everyone around me with equality. And maybe that's just another part of my lifestyle I'm going to have to change if I want to be successful at this.

Thanks again!
-ZZ
Author:  Stenic1 [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to Demonstrate Value with being a Tool
First and foremost, i would not do any of what that guy said. You will look like a TOOL.

Displaying value ISNT all about possessions etc...

For example you sway the conversation i normally go down this route
ME -'So you been on holiday atall this year'
Her - 'yeah went to bla bla bla you?'
Me - ' Yeah i went on a lads holiday and stupidly jumped in the pool and split my head open... look at that scar? point to my small harry potter scar... Its quite a funny story actually... i made good friends with 2 girls and when i dived in i split my head open and one of the girls had to rescue my stupid ass... anyways they next night i couldnt drink becayse of pain killers so i left the clubs early to find the girl who saved me extremely intoxicated/spiked so i had to phone her an ambulance, put her in the recovery position and calm her best friend down all while makiing sure shes ok.. went to hospital bla bla bla... karmas got funny ways of showing itself'
her - Wow thats amazing lapping it up.

this shows im dominant and can work under pressure also shows i lead the field well and directed everyone to safety. Chicks love that story... POint is it doesnt have to be 'Hi im steven i have a massive dick and 7 million in the bank' most girls will laugh and tell you to piss off.
Author:  Mantis- [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to Demonstrate Value with being a Tool
First of all, you DHV by having a good personality, I myself dhv because I am a pretty funny guy, I can tell you this is a really big dhv in itself.
In my opinion you don't want to use canned lines to display higher value.

I usually dhv by negging and showing that I don't need her in a playfull way.

I had a date yesterday, girl was 5 min late and gave me excuse: I couldn't find it
my response was (in a playfull way): Oh well (...) I'm looking for a girl who is smart (...) I guess I'm going home then

Later that night she negged me in a playfull way, not too sure what she said, but I responded with:
Ok, so thats whats up? I guess we don't match, if you leave now i'll pay and we never see each other again, this obviously isnt working for you

Then later she said something negative again, I just looked her straight in the eye without saying a word and having a sly grin on my face(I wanted her to talk first). afer 5 sec of looking each other in the eye she said ''what?''.

I just laughed and kclosed her (for the first time).


You just DHV by by being yourself and escalating, not some retarded line that is supposed to make her all wett.
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