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Author:  AlwaysTrying [ Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  I have a problem with getting them to stop.
I was never really a fan of running up to them and blocking their way as that never has good results and seems a little creepy in my opinion.

I like the way simple pickup does it, which is talk to them as they walk towards you, but whenever I do that, they just keep walking, so I end up following them, talking as I walk beside them.

I've only seriously started approaching for 3 days now and taking the pick-up art seriously recently so I'm still learning.

How can I get them to stop and talk? Should I just say "Hang on I'm trying to talk to you!" with a cheeky smile?

They keep smiling and sometimes giggle a little as soon as I state my true intentions after an opener, but they just keep walking.

As SimplePickup stated. "As long as they're smiling, keep going". They're smiling, giving me their names and sometimes laughing, but it always ends up with "I actually have a boyfriend" the moment or a little after I state my true intentions like "I just had to come over and say hi" or "I thought you were really cute so I had to introduce myself".

Any tips?
Author:  LeoTheory [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a problem with getting them to stop.
Check out Sasha Daygame on Youtube, The problem with Simple Pickup is they use comical routines to prove that it's possible to pick up girls no matter what material you use.

Sasha goes by the same rule as Simple Pickup, however approaches using routines which are more down to earth, but also uses a direct approach, sometimes sexualizing the conversation towards the end, specially if they have a boyfriend.

Keep going, like you said you've only approached seriously for 3 days and eventually as you get more experience of it you will learn to change things up and improve everything. Takes balls to do Day Game.
Author:  AlwaysTrying [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a problem with getting them to stop.
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Check out Sasha Daygame on Youtube, The problem with Simple Pickup is they use comical routines to prove that it's possible to pick up girls no matter what material you use.

Sasha goes by the same rule as Simple Pickup, however approaches using routines which are more down to earth, but also uses a direct approach, sometimes sexualizing the conversation towards the end, specially if they have a boyfriend.

Keep going, like you said you've only approached seriously for 3 days and eventually as you get more experience of it you will learn to change things up and improve everything. Takes balls to do Day Game.
Yeah I once read a really sick opener by Sasha, the one with "You made me shit my pants, you owe me 4$ for new underwear" then purposely guessing her nationality wrong by a completely different ethnicity just to make her smile to compliment her on it.

I will keep going, its true what they say, its just like a roller coaster, the first time you go on it, its scary as hell, then the 2nd time, a little less, then the more you go on it, it isn't as scary anymore and actually becomes fun.

I've been alone and single for 20 years, no way I'm stopping after 3 days, I just really need a lot of instruction and help is all.

To win, you need Titanium balls and lvl 99 courage. (that's my new motto lol :P)

But yeah, thanks for the reply, will check out his channel.
Author:  Alsagei [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a problem with getting them to stop.
Well well, every person has it's own opinion, and with this I refer, everyone has it's reference on the PUA community, mine, my chosen one is Mystery. Mystery has some insight on how to open Moving Sets as he calls them, i'll tell you some of the key points or tips I remember:

1)Never follow them, never walk behind them after you've say a word. That's too creep, too much interest conveyed.

2)Never lean in, because it conveys interest. Instead, just lean back.

3)Lean back, in a chilling, relaxed, comfortable way. Appear cool in your skin.

4)Speak louder, louder, and louder as they move. And they will come back. Not screaming.

Mystery uses the principle of "Objects in motion, tend to remain in motion" so he doesn't follows, he chills, leans back, and just speaks louder, they will come back.
Author:  AlwaysTrying [ Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a problem with getting them to stop.
Quote:
Well well, every person has it's own opinion, and with this I refer, everyone has it's reference on the PUA community, mine, my chosen one is Mystery. Mystery has some insight on how to open Moving Sets as he calls them, i'll tell you some of the key points or tips I remember:

1)Never follow them, never walk behind them after you've say a word. That's too creep, too much interest conveyed.

2)Never lean in, because it conveys interest. Instead, just lean back.

3)Lean back, in a chilling, relaxed, comfortable way. Appear cool in your skin.

4)Speak louder, louder, and louder as they move. And they will come back. Not screaming.

Mystery uses the principle of "Objects in motion, tend to remain in motion" so he doesn't follows, he chills, leans back, and just speaks louder, they will come back.
How often does that work? Or is it rare?

I mean, I'm pretty loud, so I don't have a problem to project my voice confidently without having to repeat myself or stutter.

But isn't it screaming to be loud enough to be heard from someone who's walking away? I mean if they can hear you then other bystanders can hear you clearly, which would be screaming right?

But I do try to keep collected, facing away and just looking 1/3 towards her so it looks like I'm about to leave. Only reason why it hasn't been working well so far is because I, unlike Style (Neil Strauss) can't get them interested enough to make them feel like trying to keep me in the conversation while I look like I'm about to leave any second.

I stop following them now though. How's this "Hang on let me talk to you!" as they leave? In a loud enough tone without screaming (however loud that is).

One thing that intrigues me is when you said "he chills, leans back, and just speaks louder, they 'will' come back".
Author:  Alsagei [ Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have a problem with getting them to stop.
Well, if you follow the steps, it's going to work 9/10 or 8/10 at least. I've tried and it works for me.

With the voice issue, for me there's a difference between a loud pitch and screaming, if you want to stop a person by screaming "Hey come here, i'm trying to talk you!" they're gonna be creeped right? But if you instead, speak louder as a natural form and throw an opener to her, she's going to come back. Screaming will scare the woman, and, according to polls, the biggest fear of women among new people is of course, their safety, there are some 'you can feel safe' indicators you can use at the beginning of a conversation, or hell, even before starting it. Some of them:
1)Exposure of the throat.
2)Exposure of the hands.
3)Smiling in a genuine manner.

More likely they will perceive you as friendly, than a threat, this of course will help you at the moment they first glance you and judge you, since human beings make unconscious judgement of others at first glance, it could be the Yes or the No between he's a creep or an attractive male.

And for the mantaining of the interest, you will have to work on the stacking of your openers, have certain things to talk after you have done your opener, could be the 'U shape smile vs. the V shape smile' the 'Bad Girl vs. Good Girl' etc. Practice your delivery, then do body rocking.
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