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Author:  pogarmy214 [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  This question is killing me!
Hey guys so I'm 19 go to University and actually work there as well (in the welcome center so I see TONS of girls everyday)
Everytime I get a conversation with a woman I usually start busting her balls about different things she's wearing, height, etc...
But either way I have trouble opening and my ultimate question is. "How do I approach women but at the same time make her think i'm uninterested or not needy?" Am I not looking already interested if I'm approaching her?
That never makes sense to me...
Please help me out!
Author:  GamesSN [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:13 pm ]
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Quote:
Hey guys so I'm 19 go to University and actually work there as well (in the welcome center so I see TONS of girls everyday)
Everytime I get a conversation with a woman I usually start busting her balls about different things she's wearing, height, etc...
But either way I have trouble opening and my ultimate question is. "How do I approach women but at the same time make her think i'm uninterested or not needy?" Am I not looking already interested if I'm approaching her?
That never makes sense to me...
Please help me out!
Direct opener: I'm interested in you and i'm confident enough to say it. I'm also confident enough to walk away from you.

Indirect opener: I'm not really here for you, I just want your opinion on something. Tell me what I need to know.

That's what you're saying with your openers.

Direct openers you don't have to act uninterested or interested. You just need to act of higher value and you've done that by directly approaching, something very few men do. You display confidence, she respects that. After that you grab her attention by moving from sociable to comfortable with them and then seduction.

Indirect openers you're acting passive to their presence(Body language) but you want their opinion on something that's been "on your mind." After that you just make sure not to pay them too much attention and hook them in.

You're not really supposed to care about your opener, it's not all that important. You just need to be the sociable guy who'll talk to anyone. An approach isn't really a means to say you're DTF. After the opener is where you need to play your game.
Author:  pogarmy214 [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:19 pm ]
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Cool... Thanks..
Also any good book out there??
I just found a pdf version of the game by Neil strauss and I'm on the 9th page.
Do you recommend it?
Author:  GamesSN [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:21 pm ]
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Have you read anything of PU before?
Author:  pogarmy214 [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:28 pm ]
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I've only looked at the video cocky comedy and double your dating from David D.
Just last week I found some videos of "mystery the pua" on youtube and loved them..
which then led me to find this website through google.
Author:  GamesSN [ Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: This question is killing me!
You've a lot to learn.

The Game is a great intro to pick up(PU). It's a story throughout but gives clear enough instructions on how to act and what to expect from PU in general as well as what kind of transformation to expect and the work required.

Next up would be something a bit more studious: Mystery Method by Mystery. Just read this for the STRUCTURE of gaming. Don't take it literally as in to do as exactly instructed word for word unless you're comfortable with that and using canned routines(Increases the likely hood that a woman will catch onto you as a PUA). These days PU is all about Natural game as opposed to Unnatural/canned game.

After that I would suggest The Natural by Richard La Ruina. Very good book, easy to read and good step to step guide. Really improves your natural game in my opinion.

Realise the structure of PU: Approach/Opening -> Mid-game -> Closing.

Common Sticking Points(Parts where you find it hard to overcome): Approaching(Approach Anxiety) and Opening. Also Transitioning from phase to phase. These SP are incredibly common and the best way to get over them is to realise and believe some simple facts(Women aren't naturally bitches even if they come across that way and it's nothing against you if they turn you down or don't want to talk to you).

Goals of each phase:

Approach/Opening - Saying hello, introductions, not being a creep and coming across with good body language. Being sociable, the guy people want around them.
Mid-game - Gaining rapport. Being comfortable with your target or set and them being comfortable with you.
Closing - Moving from comfort to seduction. With body language letting her know your intentions.

Types of closing:

N-close - Number close. Easy to get, hard to follow up with(Day 2's).
K-Close - Kiss close. Building up sexual tension and kissing the girl.
F-Close - Fuck close. Bringing her back to yours or going back to hers.
Author:  pogarmy214 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:01 am ]
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Thanks!
I'm actually very excited and so into the book the game right now as we speak.
I've had a few gf's and not a vrgn but I would like to be able to see a group of women and be able to pick and choose. To be the interviewer not the interviewee.
I'm young so why not start now...
After how many weeks, months, do you think I should have a solid foundation of picking up any women?
Author:  Dragula [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:03 am ]
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If you approach a girl, they are smart enough to know that you're interested in them.

Unless it's something genuine like being lost and needing directions.
Author:  GamesSN [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:12 am ]
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It depends. View PUA as self help or life coaching and you'll really come to terms with it and learn fast.

You should notice differences in how women respond to you with a little bit of practice. Once they start reacting better than you expected(Not being bitchy and telling you to fuck off -- which never happens... well maybe once in a while but that's not your fault) you'll start feeling more confident and when you feel more confident women will respond to your confidence. It serves as a great domino effect, the more confident the better results, the more structure you know the better your game which yields more results and gives you the confidence to do things you wouldn't normally do like go to the gym and work on your shape which, again, improves your chances with women.

I never had problems with women but I never picked them up. I'm a natural comforter... If women got close to me and start talking to me they began to get attracted to me if I didn't show them attention(I.e. I would disqualify myself by taking on the mantra of just being a friend and nothing ever happening if I thought they were out of my league or them being older than me cut them off from me). If I liked them and I wouldn't ignore them and would act like an AFC I would become friend zoned.

Once I learned to approach and open I became much more comfortable being sociable which works wonders for more social environments like house parties or parties in general because people are a lot more receptive in these environments and laid back. If you're the guy everyone talks to and wants to know about then you'll have choice of woman.

If you have more to gain from this then you'll probably pick it up faster as long as you see PUA for what it is: A set of social rules and tools to improve yourself, not just pick up women.
Author:  pogarmy214 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:06 am ]
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Nice.. What book helped you out the most?
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