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Author:  Eerie [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
I was just on my bus into the city when two perfect 10 a blonde (I love blondes) and a brunette come on. They aren't together at all. The brunette looked like Kate Beckinsale and the blonde looked like Amanda Seyfreid.

Within seconds I give up my seat to the blonde by standing up and nodding her over to the seat wordlessly. Then for the rest of the bus ride I marveled at how beautiful they were. I put it in my head that I would approach while we were getting off the bus. I would give a time constraint about having to get to work and then ask her name. Give a direct comment about how pretty she was and take her number telling her I'd call her this afternoon because I was going out in the city.

When the time came at the final stop. Everybody stood and my heart began POUNDING like it never has before. I thought I would have a heart attack. It's like being at bat in the bottom of 9th in the World Series. I couldn't approach. I let her walk off.

I'm so disappointed with myself. I feel like I really have a problem. I feel like my body chemically loses control. My mind was focused and calm but my body pumped an alarming amount of adrenaline as a reaction. How the hell can I ever succeed when this happens? I think I need to see a shrink or get medication. I've had anxiety problems outside of game before. It literally froze me into a state where I felt like my body wouldn't listen to what I wanted it to do. I was screaming "Just do it you pussy it's no big deal!" But I kept walking.

I'm so damn disappointed and lost. I'm supposed to go on a sarge tonight, but I'm just so shell shocked. I'm a very picky person with high standards but when some rare girl meets those standards I get stabbed by my subconscious. This was such a horrible experience.

Now I'm here at work with my mind and heart fighting each other. I can't focus on what I have to do.
Author:  fishnwomen [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Here is one thing that has helped me- whenever I think about not doing I say to myself this. I learned this from Tyler at RSD.

"I already committed myself to becoming a PUA, so I am going to SHUT THE FUCK UP, and DO IT."

You also disobeyed the three second rule- you can have that shitty anxiety feeling for a few seconds, a few minutes, or maybe even days.

I remember in one circumstance I had a huge approach anxiety about a girl who worked at a shop I stopped at regularly. The shitty feeling build and builds, so you are better off getting it done with right away.

Another thing that may help is warming up- and by this I mean being social in general. Talk to everyone in sight, and then when you want to pick up a girl, you are already in a social mood.

Hope this helps.
Author:  Semimembranosus [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
hey, lol. i don't think i would have done anything different.
Author:  Recker [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
I know it's easier said than done but you got to do the 3 second rule. Fuck, make it a 1 second rule haha I do that sometimes just the second I see a girl I have to start walking. You can't think of it like "oh I am now on my way to talk to this girl who is really hot and try to seduce her." You have to think it like, "yeah I'm just talking to this person... no big deal." and then half way through I am like "oh look she is indicating that she is interested in me. Isn't that something?" and then I start to flirt with her and the whole time I make myself believe it is normal. I MAKE MYSELF BELIEVE. I'm like an actor; I am embodying a whole new person. I think, "oh well here I am with this girl who obviously wants the D. This is a normal thing. After all, I am a boss; this is to be expected." I think, "You know, maybe I will bless this poor girl with tokens of my approval. Maybe I will LET her make out with me... we will see." Anyways the point is to make it normal in your own mind. Your frame needs to be powerful. You do exactly that, and you will be fine... after all man, you are the boss!
Author:  Digital_Spy [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Your heart was telling you that she was far too beautiful to be asked out by the likes of you. You did the right thing by crapping yourself as you were way out of her league. Let that be a lesson to you. Stop punching above your weight in future and stick to girls on your own level otherwise you'll keep getting yourself into a stupid state for nothing. Seriously. Just because you gave her your seat doesn't mean she owes you anything.
Author:  LawOfTeddy [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Just start talking to fat or ugly chicks or just HB1-6 about anything. Do this enough times and a lot of your AA will disappear. This does NOT mean to avoid talking to HB7-10 until you get good. If you just feel uncomfortable with trying to pick them up just ask them something stupid like "where's {name of place}?".
Or "just out of curiosity, are you from {country, state or whatever} and then say I always wanted to visit {that place} but don't say it if you know nothing about it. i.e. if she says France don't say I always wanted to visit the tower of Pisa.
The tip about talking to HB1-6 really helps because you certainly don't care if you get her or not since she wasn't your goal anyway. Drop your standards also since your a beginner and get some experience with 6's and such.
Author:  Zapend [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
My advice is to learn to enjoy this. Girls do. The heart-pounding adrenaline. Isn't that what makes dating fun? Personally, I find fear of rejection a bit thrilling... You don't know what is going to happen. REJECTED!!! Ah...

But with that being said, I'm not a master of this type of situation by any means. With a few seconds on the bus? And a totally hot girl who knows that she is so totally hot? I think the only thing that would work in a situation like that is something extremely cheesy but self-confident, like turning to her when she is getting off very directly with: "Hey, beautiful blonde." (When she looks at you, maintain complete composure). "Give me your phone number. (Pause, pause). Show everybody on this bus that miracles are possible."

You know, something cheesy, whatever. Just maintain your dignity. Act like you actually want to get to know her. That is my secret with women, I actually like them, and they pick up on it.
Author:  sparty10 [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
I agree with LawOfTeddy : "Just start talking to fat or ugly chicks or just HB1-6 about anything. Do this enough times and a lot of your AA will disappear. This does NOT mean to avoid talking to HB7-10 until you get good."

We all have been there, afraid to talk to the beautiful woman on the bus or on the street.

By taking few steps to start talking to strangers (even old guys) and then more and more beautiful women, it become easier.
I still have AA but I don't try to fight it ... but just accept it and improving day to day.

Hope next time you'll approach the perfect 10 :)
Author:  Dilla [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Ditch the rating system. Stop treating them like objects. Judge women by what they are, not a rating. You probably would have made the approach if in your mind you considered her a 6. So forget about the rating system. Mark Manson has a good point. He says that the only numbers you should have for women are 0 and 1. A '1' is a woman you're attracted to, a '0' is someone you're not.
Author:  In$tinct [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
There is no perfect 10.

The rating system is a curse. Drop it. Change it to "Women I want to get to know" and "Women I don't want to get to know". That is all. Of course from the first cathegory she can easily fall back to the second when she's annyoing.

Don't think about the scenario you're going to do. Just go in and do something. If you think too much you will be more anxious and if you even manage to approach the second something goes off track(it will always go off tack) you will panic.
Author:  wingintyme [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
You are the same guy that gets several numbers per week right? But of all the numbers you claim to get who "flake", you clammed up on this?

Part of it may be the circumstance. Were several people around and you didn't want to be heard talking to her? was your mind split 50/50 on 2 beautiful women and you couldn't figure out who was prettier or something? You couldn't figure out who to talk to first or what to say to who?

I agree with most posters on this forum. I think you said on another deal you are in NYC. It's a tough ass place to pick up local women, I've heard.
Author:  BC_3s5 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Agreed. 0 and 1 are the only numbers you should be concerned about. A 1 can even be someone you could see yourself sleeping with or getting to know with romantic interest, but still just take on for some practice if nothing more.
Author:  Jazzzz [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
Quote:
Here is one thing that has helped me- whenever I think about not doing I say to myself this. I learned this from Tyler at RSD.

"I already committed myself to becoming a PUA, so I am going to SHUT THE FUCK UP, and DO IT."

You also disobeyed the three second rule- you can have that shitty anxiety feeling for a few seconds, a few minutes, or maybe even days.

I remember in one circumstance I had a huge approach anxiety about a girl who worked at a shop I stopped at regularly. The shitty feeling build and builds, so you are better off getting it done with right away.

Another thing that may help is warming up- and by this I mean being social in general. Talk to everyone in sight, and then when you want to pick up a girl, you are already in a social mood.

Hope this helps.
I would have thrown in a joke when she sat like "You know what is it about women? Most of them dont sit when I offer my seat. You're the exception" and smile. She'd comment back and you could then make a joke like

"The worst is when they don't sit when you get up and you awkwardly stand for like 20 minutes while that seat remains vacant"

or

"Somtimes I have guys come and take a seat instead of letting the girl go. Never thought I'd try to be a gentleman to another guy ;)"
Author:  live4ever [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
happens to me to when I'm starting because I'm over thinking my approach. Don't over think just do it, 3 second rule works best.
Author:  kasabi [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Absolutely FROZEN by a perfect 10.
OP, You lack knowledge and ability . . . just work on it. Not a big deal.

Reality: Hot girls suffer from more heart aches than anybody else. Sure. . . they get out of speeding tickets. They get special SPAM. People carry shit for them. . . but NOBODY takes them seriously. Even when the get "hit on", it's usually a drunk idiot on a dare from his friends. I've known absolutely gorgeous girls who cry over this. Her fat friends on the other hand get hit on all the time because the guys think, "hey, easy fuck!"

^If you can accept this reality. . . .and also accept the reality that women gauge our physical attractiveness more by our social standings and abilities than physical attractiveness alone, I think you'll feel more comfortable under your own skin.

Open with a casual situational opener and see where it goes from here.
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