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| Author: | yello_fever [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The Game |
This just happened like two hours ago. I knew this was gonna happen eventually, but I opened a girl with the "is kissing cheating?" opener from The Game (I had never used this line before). Her first reaction was "did you read The Game?" and I said "yeah." Then she said "Hey, I read that book, and I know of you guys." I freaked out a little bit, then I said "what do you mean 'you guys?' You mean computer hackers?" Her: "no, I mean pick up artists." Me: There's a book about pick up artists? her: Yeah, what did you think I was talking about? Me: I thought you were talking about the book where they went into a video game? Wasn't Keanu Reeves in the movie version? She gives the summary of the book, then some mild conversations threads, then I bail out. So, it was pretty much damage control and I think I handled that one OK, but has anyone have this happen? That, when you open on a girl and she knew about the pickup community? After I made up the story about this other book, I definitely used lines from Mystery Method that she didn't recognize. I felt I could've kept on going, but I was afraid that she'd recognize some tactics and routines and catch me red handed. What would you have done, or what have you guys done? |
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| Author: | Mr. Marville [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
You should have asked her what she thought of the book, and if she thought it would really work, and expand on the basis of that. |
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| Author: | fishnwomen [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
I had this happen to me as well. I was in a set, and one of the guys popped up and knew about one of the openers from strauss. I also freaked out, but I handled it okay. Come up with your own opinion openers revolving around the same themes that strauss used. |
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| Author: | yello_fever [ Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
Quote: I had this happen to me as well. I was in a set, and one of the guys popped up and knew about one of the openers from strauss.
So, what's the best plan? Admit you read the book? Don't use any of the openers in the TV show or the book? Is there a list of updated openers? I do have my own openers and conversation threads, but sometimes I unintentionally use lines in the book or show cuz it is ingraned in my head
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| Author: | wingintyme [ Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
Quote: Quote: I had this happen to me as well. I was in a set, and one of the guys popped up and knew about one of the openers from strauss.
So, what's the best plan? Admit you read the book? Don't use any of the openers in the TV show or the book? Is there a list of updated openers? I do have my own openers and conversation threads, but sometimes I unintentionally use lines in the book or show cuz it is ingraned in my headI wouldn't have used a line from a book ESPECIALLY A NY TIMES BEST SELLER but since you did, the way you should have handled it was to say you read some of the book but didn't finish. Ask if you should finish. Ask if she read it all. Ask what she thought of it. To be good you have to think of your own openers. I make up most of mine on the fly. some times I make one up after I tap her and our eyes first meet |
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| Author: | Preston87 [ Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
If a women calls you out on something like this, be unshakably unapologetic. Also - use original material. |
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| Author: | yello_fever [ Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
I do have my own lines, but some lines are ingrained into my brain and I'll say it without thinking. What about routines and techniques? Do girls catch things like isolation and negging? |
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| Author: | Obi [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
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When you use bull shit canned lines that's what can happen. You've probably used those openers before and the girls knew you got it out of a book but didn't say anything.
Well said and well put.Best thing you can do is use situational openers (if you're planning on being indirect), or just be direct by telling her how attractive you think she is. On the other hand if neither are your cup of joe you can prepare some canned goods if you aren't good on the spot, at the very least it'll be original. |
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| Author: | ix. [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opened on a girl and she recognized the quote from The G |
The problem with this is that whatever you do, you're not going to backtrack. To the girl, you just said "I'm so shit at social interaction I have to follow a script from a book." However you try to reframe it, it's a huge DLV. You *may* be able to rescue it, but you'll need to reframe quickly and your game needs to be incredibly tight. It's basically a shit test, you have 3 options: 1) Agree and amplify: "Yeah. Hold on. I'm supposed to neg you now.. err.. your hair is really curly" (note really lame neg). Body language will be key to pulling this off, you have to do it in a really sarcastic way. Slowly, scratch your head, lean back as if you're trying to remember but it needs to be obvious that you're playing with her not doing it seriously. Overact! Follow up her response with "No no no, you're doing it all wrong. Now you're supposed to give me an IOI." 2) Dismiss "What a weird question" 3) Reframe "Yeah. It works really well. Are you telling me you've never read any dating advice?" Agree and amplify is probably the best course of action but whatever you do from here it's going to be an uphill struggle due to opening with a huge DLV. After regaining composure you're better off ejecting and opening another set. The best outcome here is that the "failed" interaction with will do wonders for your social proof because she probably walked off laughing with a smile on her face and you were seen to be the one who ended the conversation. |
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