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Author:	Italianman [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:	The second part of a direct open
If I understood well, when you direct open a girl, then you say something like this: Hello (with smile), I just saw you and I find you gorgeus. I would to know how you are. But after you say "I would to know how you are" what happen???? Do you continue the sentence saying "is it possible"? (you could get "no") or do you shut up and you wait her reply (but you did not formulate any question)

Author:	Nebular [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Best not to compliment her on anything physical. I kind of don't understand what you're asking. " I would like to know how you are?" and then follow it up with permission to know? English your first language?

Author:	Italianman [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
I am Italian sorry for my English. "I would like to know how you are" means I would to know you as a person. (if this is wrong please correct me)

Author:	Nebular [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Beato te che incontri un altro italiano su questo forum. I'm not sure if it is permissible to speak another language here though so I'll send you a pm.

Author:	Nebular [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Ciao, ti ho notato poco fa e vorrei conoscerti" My friend here is trying to get an opinion on this opener: "Hi, I noticed you a little while ago, and I'd like to get to know you......can I get to know you?" And whether or not it is better to say the second part before she answers or wait for a response. Opinions? I think it better not to get her permission for anything.

Author:	wingintyme [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
When I first read this I got the impression that was his first sentence to a girl but he was nervous and forgot some of the words. There's not a right or wrong answer to it. I think you should try it both ways. Try it once one way, if it works, try it the same way until it doesn't work. Then try the other way until it doesn't work. Don't be real concerned with the first several on the actual outcomes. Just take a note book and chart the reactions and report to me here in 77 hours. If 3 girls asks what the note book is for prior to 77 hours, report to me immediately

Author:	Italianman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Quote: Opinions? I think it better not to get her permission for anything. This is my opinion too, but what do you say after you said "I'd like to get to know you"

Author:	Nebular [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Well, you would have just completed the first step. Now everything else plays in (Mid game onward). Read the forum, or read any other material if you're looking for a formula.

Author:	alphamale_16 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
2 or 3 compliments and number close or kiss close. PUA: Hey, how gorgeus you are! HB: hahaha PUA: Really, I love your smile! HB: hahaha PUA: I don't have much time and muss go, but if you give me your number, we can speak another day. Numberclose.

Author:	Italianman [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Nebular: Best not to compliment her on anything physical. alphamale_16: 2 or 3 compliments and number close or kiss close.

Author:	Nebular [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:24 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Quote: Nebular: Best not to compliment her on anything physical. alphamale_16: 2 or 3 compliments and number close or kiss close. "I like that necklace" "You have a cute laugh" Not physical. I mean if you want to be like every dude at the place, or better yet, in her life, by letting her know how beautiful she is, go for it.

Author:	muscularpants [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Okay people saying don't say anything physical are not completely right. If you suck at giving compliments then yeah stick to indirect opinion opener game because it's so awkward. I used to suck at it but gained a lot of confidence and then got a lot better. With direct opener it is a lot how you say it not what you say. It is also a lot how you respond to her reaction. If she gets nervous and you get nervous..... not good. If you remain calm and bring her into your reality then you're good. My favorite direct opener is to say "I saw you and I thought you were cute and I just wanted to come over and see if you were cool..." It is different than the guys who want to instantly get the number, buy the drink, or sleep with them. I think the reason it works for me is because this is how I actually feel. I've talked to some beautiful women and found them dull and boring. No number close or anything. They weren't my type and they didn't meet up to my qualifications. Get RIGHT OFF the opener just like any other opener. With opinion openers you talk a little bit about it so with direct openers it is instantly. You can say maybe one or two things like you like her eyes or smile but try going straight into something unrelated to her physical attraction. On some direct game models, they say make observational statements about them after you open. "You look like someone who...." "Your accent sounds like...." "You remind me of a friend of mine who did tap dancing...." I don't know I'm just making stuff up off the top of my head. The thing with this is she will either say "No, but why do you say that?" or she will say "Yes! How can you tell?" either way she is interested to why you made the comment. Unless you're totally nervous and have no confidence she will probably just say yes or no and try to exit.

Author:	Dag-Are [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
This thread has a high facepalm factor... I opened this thread from my subscription email because it seemed interesting. It seems to me that there are just a bunch of home-living-with-their-mom-AFC's here. 90% consist of nothing productive or informative of any sorts. Ban/suspend alphamale_16 or something. Skip down to the bottom and read muscularpants post. I do about the same as you. Run over, state my purpose, sees if she is up for a chat. It should be/feel natural, and if it doesn't: Do some thinking until it does. Some forum mod should delete every but the first and the last (muscularpants) post in this thread. Thank you and goodbye.

Author:	Tr@veler [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
A direct opener has a few advantages from some people who do not find indirect opening congruent. What direct openers allow is for you to be COMPLETELY CONGRUENT to your intentions. A direct opener exists because of this, basically. It is not about putting everything on the line and then seeing if the girl likes you. It's you going over to a girl and GENUINELY telling her you find her attractive. You do not know what to say because you do not know your intention. What is your intention? Right in that moment? Is it to talk to her? Is it to get her number? Is it to get to know her so you can screen her if she is worthy of your time and effort? The third one seems nice wink wink. So let's say your intention is number three, to go up to her, tell her why you're talking to her straight up so you're completely congruent (which is attractive), and then trying to honestly find out if you two have a connection. What would you say? What is important to you here? To me a few important things are that: 1) She's nice. 2) She's at least somewhat attracted to me, but the more the better. 3) That she's playful and likes to have fun and smile. 4) That she's open about strangers coming up to her and being friendly. 5) That she's got qualities I look for in a woman (has style, is somewhat classy, the classier the better, has goals in life, has passions, etc). 6) Is sexual. There are many more. But you have to have an intention in order to go up and have a conversation with a girl. This isn't lower consciousness stuff! You have to use your brain at least a little bit in the moment! "Hey, do you speak english?" "Yeah" "OK, so I noticed you from over there and thought you were really cute, so I had to say hi." "Haha thanks." "You don't sound like you're from Vienna at all." "No I'm from blabla" "Really. What you doing here?" "Studying law!" "Oh my god, no way, I have to get away from you, you're gonna put me in jail for public harrassment" "Hahaha, no! Where are you from?" blabla blabla get to know each other play around stay congruent blabla nice weather cool shoes, did you steal them blabla touch a little bit here and there if it's on go all romantic with her do you dance, let's dance here dance have to go get number hug or kiss goodbye. Something like that, I don't know I just freestyled a little bit, but hopefully it will make things a little clearer for you.

Author:	Nebular [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The second part of a direct open
Quote: This thread has a high facepalm factor... I opened this thread from my subscription email because it seemed interesting. It seems to me that there are just a bunch of home-living-with-their-mom-AFC's here. 90% consist of nothing productive or informative of any sorts. Ban/suspend alphamale_16 or something. Skip down to the bottom and read muscularpants post. I do about the same as you. Run over, state my purpose, sees if she is up for a chat. It should be/feel natural, and if it doesn't: Do some thinking until it does. Some forum mod should delete every but the first and the last (muscularpants) post in this thread. Thank you and goodbye. My posts are a translation numbnut.

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