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| Author: | Dynamic87 [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bar approach |
I am new to the whole Game experience so I'm still learning and reading up openers etc before I field test them. However one routine I have always used when I am the bar waiting to be served and I am stood next to an attractive girl, I always turn to her and say: Me: Hey would you like a drink? Female: Yeah go on then Me: What are you drinking? Female: Vodka and coke I then call the bartender over and say.. Me: Can I get a Vodka and Coke and a pint of 'X', oh and she said she'll pay. I then point at the attractive female then turn my body position away from her and they're always like 'What the?' I then turn back and say Me: I'm just joking, you should see your face. You can pay for your own though. Its cheeky but I've never had a bad response from it and it always opens up to a conversation. I know it goes against a lot of what the game teachers you BUT if you're new to opening sets and want to build your confidence up then this might be worth trying out to help you. Also I've seen this done and it got a great response from groups out. If your at the bar and someone says ''Fancy buying me and my mates a drink'' respond with ''Yeah, I tell you what, go sit over there and I'll bring them over'' When she goes to sit down order a pint of water with four straws and then take it over and put in the middle of the table. The reaction from people watching is brilliant and you find people come up to you and want to talk. I know its not an opener but its a funny story. |
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| Author: | TheAnimal [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
i like it! its starts out very light and a bit of the opposite of an alpha but then you turn around and get some cocky humor in to it.. if it was me i would wait to see her response when you say shell be paying, and you might even get her to pay for the drinks haha! but just go out their and talk to as many people as possible then youll get the feeling of opening up groups.. and just quote openings and rutines you read on here, but eventually youll develop your own game tactic! good luck |
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| Author: | wingintyme [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
I'm not real big on asking to buy a drink at the open. The reason is, is b/c a lot of guys do that for an open and it's typically the boring guys. Your strategy of turning your back and acting like your not gonna pay is cute but you may lose a few with the open you could of had if you open different. I sort of use a turning the back method some times as a silent type of neg to make her wonder if I'm interested in her. But a lot of it depends on the situation. It's ideal for certain scenario's but not all. |
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| Author: | wingintyme [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
I'm not real big on asking to buy a drink at the open. The reason is, is b/c a lot of guys do that for an open and it's typically the boring guys. Your strategy of turning your back and acting like your not gonna pay is cute but you may lose a few with the open you could of had if you open different. I sort of use a turning the back method some times as a silent type of neg to make her wonder if I'm interested in her. But a lot of it depends on the situation. It's ideal for certain scenario's but not all. |
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| Author: | Eerie [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
I like the idea but as mentioned above, I wouldn't open with a drink. Maybe later on after you have a little rapport. You could say hey I need a drink come to the bar with me. Then you ask what she's having then pull out that line. |
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| Author: | Goldsword [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Bloody hell I can't believe guys are still offering to buy women drinks in bars, that went out decades ago! It is a definite no. In a bar you usually want to come in under the radar, so open with something like: "Do you know if there are any better bars around here?" That way you don't even sound like a PUA. Women are almost always in groups in bars too, so you want to open with something that wont appear like you are barging into their group. With your back turned to them talk over your shoulder as if you are about to walk away as well. This is where a wing comes in handy as you can stand near them and be talking to your wing and open girls who walk past by turning to talk over your shoulder. Just stand in a part of the bar where a lot of people are walking past. You do not want to be seen walking around a bar yourself so position yourself and your wing in a busy part of the bar, not actually at the bar though but say near the cloakroom or toilets so a lot of women will be walking past you. |
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| Author: | alphamale_16 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
I think it's not a good idea to open offering a drink. The girl may think that you need to pay for a drink to have a conversation. There is an opener that is: you ask if she wants a shot, you order 2 shots and you drink both of them. |
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| Author: | Eerie [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Quote: I think it's not a good idea to open offering a drink. The girl may think that you need to pay for a drink to have a conversation.
This is a cool move. I've never tried it. I'm more cocky funny alpha male so it's something I'd do. There is an opener that is: you ask if she wants a shot, you order 2 shots and you drink both of them. Another cool opener I like to do is go up and say "You gonna stand there shy all night or are ya gonna buy me a drink?" |
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| Author: | Casanova71286 [ Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Simply Brilliant Dynamic87!  The girl initially thought you were like every other type of guys that they can take advantage of for free drinks, but you totally turned things around, when you told the bartender that she will pay for it She probably was thinking 'Who the hell is this guy?' but at the same time her attraction towards would have spiked |
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| Author: | Eerie [ Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Quote: Simply Brilliant Dynamic87!
This can turn the girl into snobby bitch mode though. A girl once approached me and asked "So are you gonna buy me a drink or what?" I said "I don't buy strangers drinks so you gotta earn it from me." Her response was quite snobby. She said something about how she could get loads of other guys to buy her a drink. I shrugged and said "suit yourself I guess you only like the easy type."
The girl initially thought you were like every other type of guys that they can take advantage of for free drinks, but you totally turned things around, when you told the bartender that she will pay for it She probably was thinking 'Who the hell is this guy?' but at the same time her attraction towards would have spiked |
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| Author: | Dynamic87 [ Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Its good to see this has got mixed opinions as it was what I was expecting because like I said in the first post it does go against the rules. However, every time the few times I have used this routine I have never had to pay for a drink. I will never actually buy a girl a drink unless she has proven to me she is worth the effort. If she turns out to be snob, then you leave her feeling stupid because you just pay for your own drink and leave anyway so its a win/win. Its never failed me, I've never had to pay for a drink and it a set everytime. I'm not screaming out for you guys to use this, I just wanted to get opinions on it and discuss the good/bad points about it so together we could collectively turn this into something we could all use and be 100% full proof. |
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| Author: | yello_fever [ Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
You mention it has never failed you, but it your approach pretty much forces her to buy a drink. Girls sometime will only buy X amount of drinks in a whole night but are willing to take any additional free drinks, probably due to budgeting. This routine may open a set, but it forces her to break her nightly bar budget. A better approach will be: You: Hey there Girl: Hi You: Would you like a drink? Girl: Um, Yeah sure You: Well, the bartender seems really busy right now, so you're gonna have to wait. Until then, I was wondering if I could briefly have a female's perspective on something... This is a modification that mixes a little bit of your example with an opener that I've done. The one I do is simpler. I just walk up next to the girl and pretend I'm waiting for the bartender, look to her and say "how's it going," and look back as if I'm trying to get the bartender's attention (active disinterest). She'll look at me briefly then look away , probably back at the TV or her phone. I pretend I'm still impatiently waiting for the bartender, and look to her "hey, while I'm waiting to get the bartender's attention, I was wondering if I could quickly have a female's perspective on something..." This is very non-threatening and creates the illusion that I'm only talking to her to kill some time. |
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| Author: | Dilla [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Quote: I think it's not a good idea to open offering a drink. The girl may think that you need to pay for a drink to have a conversation.
I've tried that once after I saw a friend do it to get away from a girl. He got with her but then wanted to ditch her so he ordered two shots, drank them and ran off leaving the girl to pay for them. I have done the same but after I ran off I went and bought two more drinks at the other bar and found a couch. After a few minutes, I saw the girl in question wandering around looking for someone (me) until she spotted me and came up to me all angry and stuff...I said something like "you're lucky you're young because frowning causes wrinkles and it aint cute...relax, here I got you a drink" with a devil smile and she bursted out laughing and sat with me....I toyed with her, made it up to her without putting her on a pedestal (we were back even on the drinks front) and most importantly I isolated her.There is an opener that is: you ask if she wants a shot, you order 2 shots and you drink both of them. I've only tried it once but had great results. One Love |
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| Author: | Dilla [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
Quote: I think it's not a good idea to open offering a drink. The girl may think that you need to pay for a drink to have a conversation.
I've tried that once after I saw a friend do it to get away from a girl. He got with her but then wanted to ditch her so he ordered two shots, drank them and ran off leaving the girl to pay for them. I have done the same but after I ran off I went and bought two more drinks at the other bar and found a couch. After a few minutes, I saw the girl in question wandering around looking for someone (me) until she spotted me and came up to me all angry and stuff...I said something like "you're lucky you're young because frowning causes wrinkles and it aint cute...relax, here I got you a drink" with a devil smile and she bursted out laughing and sat with me....I toyed with her, made it up to her without putting her on a pedestal (we were back even on the drinks front) and most importantly I isolated her.There is an opener that is: you ask if she wants a shot, you order 2 shots and you drink both of them. I've only tried it once but had great results. One Love |
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| Author: | Thresholdz [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bar approach |
I'll be honest with you, I don't like it. Not to play devil advocate, but I believe this opening sequence sets you up for failure unless you have really good calibration skills or the girl is ALREADY showing signs of interest. This is better as a transition. Let me tell you why. You open playfully and then use this as a transition, so it feels like you are rewarding her for responding to you THEN you congruently move into this routine. My mentor, who has some of the best opening game I've ever seen just started a meet up group discussing some of the best tactics on approaching, qualification, sexual escalation, and lifestyle. Good luck! |
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