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Author:  Shuga101 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Beginner Tips - Mystery Method too complicated?
I read The Game many years ago and didn't really act on it. Thought it was interesting but that was that.

My recent circumstances have made me want to be more proactive in my attempts. I've been reading Mystery Method and although I can see how some of it would work, I think it's a bit too much to take on board at one time.

What would be the ideal set to start with and hope would you open it? I am not good with AA but think I'd be okay after that is over.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:05 pm ]
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I am not good with AA but think I'd be okay after that is over.

Learn how to over come that first...


You gotta walk before you can crawl.
Author:  Shuga101 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beginner Tips - Mystery Method too complicated?
That's the thing. I think I don't know what to quite do first and to whom.

There are so many openers and things.. Mystery goes on about layering and getting loads of stories going on at one time. That seems a bit too tough for me to try on my first attempts.

I really mean, what groups are the 'easiest' and should I just open with a standard 'what's your opinion on?' kind of question? Idk.. I'd like to keep it as unforced as possible
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:23 pm ]
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That's the thing. I think I don't know what to quite do first and to whom.

There are so many openers and things.. Mystery goes on about layering and getting loads of stories going on at one time. That seems a bit too tough for me to try on my first attempts.

I really mean, what groups are the 'easiest' and should I just open with a standard 'what's your opinion on?' kind of question? Idk.. I'd like to keep it as unforced as possible
What he is talking about is "threading conversation" which is something you won't even need to worry about until you get sets to hook. It's really not that. If you actually pay attention to the way you converse with your good friends you already have, this is the way you talk. You don't really notice it because it just feels "natural" to you. You have say 4 or 5 different topics that you keep bouncing back and forth between to talk about.

Here's an example of how that starts...

"I went skiing in Denver last winter"

There are now 2 places that from that one sentence that conversational threads can open. The 2 topics would be skiing and Denver...

"Oh, check this out, last time I went skiing blah blah blah blah blah..."

or

"I love Denver! Last time I went there blah blah blah blah blah..."

Then from those statements, you now have different topics that can open up.



And as far as your opener.... Don't over think this. It's just an opener. You could simply say "Hi! My name is whatever, you guys seem like you might be pretty cool so I wanted to come introduce myself." or you can go with the opinion openers. I personally prefer to save the "opinion" questions or the "what if" questions for later in the interaction if it happens to start going dry. Calibrate AFTER your opener, not before. I've been doing this for 5 years now. NEVER have I had a girl in bed with me and heard her say "There's a little bit of a problem... your opener... It was a bit too situational. I'm going to have to call it a night. It was nice meeting you though!"

Most people forget the first thing that you say to them anyways. Just start talking.
Author:  Preston87 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:35 pm ]
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My biggest tip for approach anxiety is practicing a confident smile and strong, direct eye contact. If you can do these two things, the approach is much more likely to be successful.

As for the actual convo:


One thing to do is practice and talk to regular people - aka strangers.

It's a lot easier with friends because you've built up a comfort level, but talking to random strangers - girls or guys - will really improve your conversational skills - I am starting to do this, and now I"ll never have an awkward moment on the elevator to class or with the cashiers at the store.

One thing to NOT do is have a preset/canned routine.

Conversations should flow naturally and there is something very contrived about canned routines which can emerge if the girl doesn't respond exactly as planned or show the expected level of interest. I think it's much more natural to converse as you would with a regular person to build rapport, THEN as you get comfortable with this, start throwing the kino and the teasing in to build attraction in your future interactions with other girls.


It's a personal preference thing, but those games and challenges proposed by some PUA gurus just seem too gimmicky and I'm sure women pick up on that.
Author:  Preston87 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:42 pm ]
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And as far as your opener.... Don't over think this. It's just an opener.
And try not to have a specific conversational outcome in mind. Say what you want to say, but don't get tunnel vision and lead the convo down a path it isn't naturally headed. The important thing is eliciting values, building rapport, and increasing sexual tension - there are infinite permutations to any given conversation to achieve those goals.
Author:  bamthebomb [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:47 pm ]
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AA? i've got some of that but i pretend i'm on a show, or i made a bet with a buddy, or i think of myself i'm drunk and works. Sometimes i go to stragers just to give them a compliment, a genuine compliment, walk away, and that gives me more confidence.

I still have AA and i don't think i will ever ger rid of it.
Author:  Preston87 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:59 pm ]
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I still have AA and i don't think i will ever ger rid of it.
I do too, and you're definitely not alone. I've found that over months of approaching a lot of random strangers, it's gone down but there is still a bit of nervousness every time I approach someone new.
Author:  TheFury [ Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:17 pm ]
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Most of the responses here are pretty good.. I just wanted to emphasis the confidence angle.
AA is a lot about confidence. A key reason Openers/routines/etc. are successful because they give you confidence to approach knowing you will have something to say; knowing you have a plan. However, body language is also key. As someone mentioned here, eye contact is critical, smiling, etc.. I have opened countless women by looking directly into their eyes from across the bar and literally pointing right at them. When they smile or motion to themselves, I motion them to come over. The ONLY thing that approach has going for it is it displays confidence, which believe it or not, is enough to open a lot of women.
Author:  fishnwomen [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:30 pm ]
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I think smiling is the key, that and good posture- (chest out, shoulders back). If you smile, you will be perceived as a friend to a girl, rather than a potential enemy. This is tribal psychology. Before you open any sets, just practice smiling, when you enter a new room, always smile. It will seem weird at first, but it will get easier the more you do it.

You obviously don't want to have a huge grin on your face at every waking moment, but if you are walking past girls, throw on a little grin.

Something that makes it easier for me to smile is to have gum in my mouth. Chewing it makes it less of a stretch to work your way into a smile.

Try walking a little slower too- it gives you more opportunity for interaction with a girl, and portrays more confidence.
Author:  Husula10 [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:25 pm ]
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Hey man.. Best thing you can do is talk to people. If you have AA (Approach Anxiety) or shy, just go out and talk to people, really. Dont talk to the beautiful girl that passes by, probably you gona get all messed up cuz ur nervous and not try it ever again. Go out try to talk to guys and make new friends, talk to girls WITH NO SECOND INTENTIONS, just talk to them! after you get more social and its not hard talking to people, when you have more confidence with GUYS and with GIRLS just TALKING and keeping a CONVERSATION, you are going to be able to start applying PUA techniques and sequences, etc..

Forget about canned openers or shit like that to talk to girls man, just plain simply try to keep a friendly conversation with a girl, a guy , any one. After you do that you are going to be more comfortable talking with people you dont know and its going to be way easier walking up to a girl and start talking to her or try anything on her, tehcniques, NPL, etc. Going to be more confident.

Hope this helps man :)

Good luck!
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