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| Author: | Subjugator [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Needed a little advice on an opener |
I hope I'm posing this in the correct forum and I'd like to apologize if I didn't. I'm 100% new to the PUA lifestyle. That being said, I never was one of those guys who actively approached women. I actually never do it at all and I'd like to change that. The point I'm trying to make is that this is a first for me. Now for the story. There is this girl who works in a seperate part of the store I work in and all she does is hands out flyers, I've actually tried approaching her once but all that really came out was a hi, got a bit awkward, asked how work was, got even more awkward and luckily a friend came in and just swooped me away. I don't know if she remembers this but this was about a half a year ago. All I know about her is that she likes hair and her name is Cassandra. My plan was just to walk up to her the next time I see and say, "hey, can I get your opinion on something?" pull out my phone and show her this hairstyle and just ask her something like, "think this will look good on me?" Now that I've written this out, it sounds a bit dumb but I really don't have much to go on. Any advice? |
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| Author: | officialpoypoy [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
i dont think shed remember you after a year. dude if u go there and just go indirect its just going to project the same kind of weakness you showed last time. just go to her and direct and convey the awesome you and if she dont like you then move on, theres hundreds of girls dont focus all ur attention into 1. |
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| Author: | Tainted Lust [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
Do it. Man up and act like you have a pair. Confidence and direct. |
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| Author: | Subjugator [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
I've been working on that. Went out sarging today for the first time, I also plan on going tomorrow to work on my AA. It's horrid |
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| Author: | wingintyme [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
I think your opinion opener with a pic in your phone is an ok idea but you could run in to some problems with it. If you are nervous, are your hands going to be shaky? if so, it's going to be awkward and things could go down hill fast. If you want to use it, you probably need to practice the same tactic on other girls or even friends or guys before you get to her. It doesn't hurt to get more than one opinion on something fashion related. I also don't like opinion openers unless you are genuinely interested in her opinion. I also think you are setting yourself up for failure most likely anyway b/c you are over thinking and fantasizing about a simple approach. The 3 second rule is very valid. If you haven't approached a girl you like within 3 seconds of seeing her, it's usually a lost cause in this community. You have a little bit of an advantage b/c she works with you but you aren't really taking much advantage of it. I would start by asking her something job related . "so you pass out flyers, you must get a lot of exercise" "did you hear about such and such going on in such and such department" That's some examples if you can get in a natural position in passing to talk to her without having to walk to her for the sole purpose of talking if otherwise you have no business in her area. If you would have to walk up to her and have no logical business otherwise in her area, probably the best tactic is direct. tell her your name, you've noticed her for months but didn't know her, whats her name, that kind of stuff. In that case, she's going to realize you are interested in her but it might be your most logical chance. Chances are this isn't going to go anywhere and you will end up a little disappointed but you can be relieved at least you finally tried and you can still learn from it. To be successful, it helps to get that first stressful or over thought approach out of the way. |
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| Author: | Subjugator [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
Interesting, I do like the first opener. But I do agree, I don't failure so I try to avoid it and the sad thing is...I do know once I do finally fail for the first time it becomes a million times easier but I just can't bring myself to that point yet. Although this weekend I plan on trying out that newbie mission where I just say hi to every girl I pass by. Sounds like it would help me a lot. Thanks for the input! |
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| Author: | wingintyme [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
Quote: Interesting, I do like the first opener. But I do agree, I don't failure so I try to avoid it and the sad thing is...I do know once I do finally fail for the first time it becomes a million times easier but I just can't bring myself to that point yet. Although this weekend I plan on trying out that newbie mission where I just say hi to every girl I pass by. Sounds like it would help me a lot. Thanks for the input!
Don't think of it in terms of failing. It's just one girl. If you do the approach and talk to her, then no matter what happens you win. You did it and it's over with.
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| Author: | Subjugator [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
True, thanks for the input |
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| Author: | Reality Show [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
Try it on 10. |
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| Author: | Goldsword [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
Here are a few openers I use for day game; "Excuse me, but I just wanted to say you look amazing". For moving or standing targets in the street. If she responds well to this you need to quickly transition with something like: "So what brought you out today". You can then add a time constraint like I was just on my way somewhere, I have got to be somewhere in a half an hour. Then continue you with more banter. You can also use a longer version for street targets such as; "Excuse me, sorry, can I say something really quickly? I think you look amazing" or "I really like your style" while pointing to her clothes. "It looks really original". Then you can continue with something like, "I read somewhere that most women spend about an hour getting ready in the morning while most men only spend about 10 minutes". Then continue with more banter. For seated targets during the day situational openers combined with time constraints can work well to open sets. You can also use the style opener too on seated sets combined with a time constraint like this: "Excuse me I have got to get off soon, but I just wanted to say I really like your style, how you are dressed it looks really good". Then quickly transition into small talk. |
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| Author: | stevejabba [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Needed a little advice on an opener |
If you overthink this then you are nearly 100% gauranteed to screw it up. Overthinking is your enemy. Second point, the opener is almost irrelevant. What matters is your vibe and what you subcommunicate. These articles might help: http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... e-setting/ http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... g-moments/ |
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