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Author:  Webcam38 [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  provocative student girl opener

Guys, I didn't like any of the canned openers so I had to make my own opener. I had day game in my mind, I want to approach mixed sets and mother daughter sets (HB6 and HB9) wandering in the mall. I am a private English tutor.

I say, "Hello, your daughter reminds me of my private student! May I ask your opinion on something? My student who looks like your daughter's younger sister wants me to pay for her heavy metal tattoo what her father forbid her to do!
I told her no-way, but she says she is desperate for it, and she thought I was "cool enough" to do it. She just wants to keep my teaching fee for 2 weeks and get her 80 Euro to pay her heavy metal tattoo, and she wants to pay me back by getting some of her high school boy and girlfriends buy English classes from me in the sort run.
If I outright reject her gambit, she will withdraw and stop learning English normally, so basically I need advice to outmaneuver her. Maybe his father is a drunk, his face is red and we went to the pub to break up 50 EUR bills to get my tuition fee."

This is powerful material, but I don't know how to use it and when (A1-A2-A3)? It is too serious, too complex and long but it is controversial and realistic as well, and I am an English teacher so this could have happened...

Any comments, or any idea of a better opener or story??

Author:  Fatale [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:44 pm ]
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This is a bad opener. It sends a strong message that you have bad judgement and poor professional skills.

The material is much too heavy and it's generally speaking unwise to ask a stranger, especially a target how to handle a situation in one's own profession. Added to you asking whether or not to commit an immoral act puts you in a very negative light.

I applaude for any attempt to create an original opener, but the old advice is to keep it lighthearted enough and come up with a story that "advertises" your more positive or desirable characteristics. It is also wise to keep one's professional life out of the conversation at first.

Author:  Webcam38 [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:48 pm ]
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HB 17yrs to outwit their parents, getting their Linkin Park tattoos are no longer immoral in Europe (unless you live in a hard line Christian Scientist family), or you are stuck in the early 1960's...

Author:  Fatale [ Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:57 pm ]
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HB 17yrs to outwit their parents, getting their Linkin Park tattoos are no longer immoral in Europe (unless you live in a hard line Christian Scientist family), or you are stuck in the early 1960's...
Linkin Park is not heavy metal. Tattoos are not immoral, being a bad role model is and tutor is. Especially when it would mean to put your business before an underaged girl's best and against her parents' consent.

Idea of allowing a 17-year-old to even make you consider something like that makes you seem like an irresponsible idiot. Just don't use that opener, period.

Author:  Webcam38 [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Badguy

What if I am a badguy, and not just pretending to be a badguy? You dont know me, perhaps my brutal saide is my best side... Here, bad guys usually get laid, the good ones that are sagging. Almost every nice girl visit the camp of the Black Hat Cowboys for a year ir two; in Budapest, hot 18yrs hang out with known members of the local maffia...?Or you think the techno music clubs are run by Amnesty International?
And a 17 yo is not a child, here they are often are married and allready have children, so they are allmost adults, the deal is not 21, its 18 or sooner, not conservative US of A, it is post socialist Europe...

Author:  Paul_T [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:37 pm ]
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It's a bad opener because it makes you look bad. Sorry, but it just is.

Author:  Don Horneone [ Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:08 pm ]
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I hate to agree with Fatale, but I do, almost to the letter.

Author:  Webcam38 [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  on a rethorical plane

I still don't get why do you PUAs think one should leave out his actual profession from aproaching HBs...And I don't use this story...only here in my creative-productive game, or research laboratory; and admit it is one of my less successfull project...

Author:  Don Horneone [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:30 pm ]
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Your story is confusing, it shows that you entertain inappropriate requests from underage girls and it shows that you ask random strangers for how to conduct yourself IN YOUR OWN PROFESSION.

If you'd said "hey guys, should I tell a girl I've just met what I do for a living?" I'm guessing the reaction would have been at least slightly different.

Author:  Webcam38 [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:04 am ]
Post subject:  dazed and confused

My story is confusing because I am a truly confused guy... (Although the 30% of the members here are far more confused than I am...) If I weren't, I wouldn't be here, would possibly be devorced and remarried, or a roughousing manual worker, or a boring and authoritarian academic, an uppity legislator or you name it...

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