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| Author: | Lifo [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Im new to this and In need of all the help I can get! |
I'm totally new to this world and I am reading The Game for the first time. I havent made any approaches yet because I have no experience with women and get really bad AA when I see any girl i'm attracted too. Should I just start approaching women straight away despite my very limited knowledge or should I do some studying first and the go out into the field? Thanks |
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| Author: | Lifo [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:25 pm ] |
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Thanks for the advice, I've got an opener which could use some work but if I could have your opinion on the general idea of it i'd appreciate it! I'd only use this on an 8+ The Idea came from a mixture of something I heard Charlie Sheen say on Two and a Half Men and a line I heard Style use: Hey *smile* Can I have your opinion on a theory which im working on? I figured you look lonely so this may be quite appropriate to you (neg) It's called beautiful girl syndrome. I figured the more attractive a girl is the more lonely she is because guys don't dare ever approach her. I mean why should you be punished with loneliness just because you got lucky in the looks department? Imagine your looks were based on personality completely, what are your three best traits that would make you want to approach you? (Neg) Thanks |
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| Author: | Infiltrator92 [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:05 pm ] |
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I like that as a line/routine, but I don't think it would work to open with, it's too long and obviously planned and I think. With regards to opening I'm a fan of natural game, and the best way to get over AA is to make conversation with everyone, and not just women. Say you're buying something, ask the person how their day is going, if you're stood next to someone in a shop ask them a reccomendation, give them a reccomendation. I used to be fine talking to girls, but found opening hard, and I got over it by talking to literally everyone. Something I will add is I now work in retail and so talking to people is part of my job, something I have to do and very quickly you come to the realisation that people aren't scary. Most people are happy to have a little conversation about anything. To summarise, an opener can be anything from 'hey, how are you' to 'hi, I just wanted to tell you you're one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen'. The thing a lot of beginners don't realise is that an opener is not designed to attract or be attractive, it is simply used to start the conversation, so say whatever, and people will respond. Also eye-contact and smiling I find are so so key for PU. |
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| Author: | Lifo [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:25 pm ] |
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Thank you for the advice, I went to a shop after work today for my first Sarge attempt, I was running the ESP opening routine through my head so much before hand I actually drove past the shop! When I got into the shop I saw one target, AA got the better of me... I bottled it! |
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| Author: | Infiltrator92 [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:57 pm ] |
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Some mpua's might disagree with me, but I wouldn't particularly try to sarge until you're comfortable talking to strangers. If you talk to 10 people with no intention you are likely to find that 1 of them will start flirting naturally and giving you IOIs etc. Approaching when you never have done is scary, I remember sweating and panicking and feeling horrendous about it, but pretty quickly I realised that it's just not that bad, and now, I genuinely love talking to strangers and meeting new people. When i say that I'm not particularly talking about gaming either, I mean just meeting people. Once you are comfortable talking to anyone the world is your oyster. |
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| Author: | Gibbe84 [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:40 pm ] |
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If I were you I wouldn't worry about what to use as an opener. Openers are probably the least important part of gaming women. The key is whether you can transition to building rapport once you have her attention. To open just ask any open-ended question (a question that won't be answered with a yes or no) and then try and flow naturally. As a newbie maybe it would be a good idea to go somewhere interesting where you naturally have things to talk about? Otherwise try somewhere you have an interest in. If you are in your natural environment you will be more comfortable and therefore get better results. By that I mean if you like pool then try and pick girls up in a pool hall. If you like fashion then go to a clothes shop where hot women shop. If you like art then hit on girls in galleries. You get the picture.... Walking up to random women in a mall or on the streets is very tough for a newbie. If you are somewhere that interests you anyway you should feel more relaxed and meet people who are likely to have something in common with you. It's obviously simple to strike up conversation and rapport if you have a natural place or topic to discuss. Not saying to ignore girls on the streets if they're hot. Just saying that if you have never done any approaches before and are nervous around women it's easiest to work in an environment that's comfortable for you. |
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