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| Author: | WAMaroon [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Preselecting your approach |
I've been reading various forums and although PUA is essentially a numbers game, there are ways to improve your sets. Instead of the noob approaching 50 sets a day and hopefully get some closes, a PUA preselects his sets by finding IOIs or reasons to approach them and start gaming, with better success. However, I'm finding it hard to preselect sets to approach. I think just going for girls who interest you and that you want to meet is a good initial funnel but is this the right method? I dont really notice IOIs coming toward me so I sometimes get blown out (no response or subdued responses are my two problems). |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:34 pm ] |
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I think it's hard to get IOI's before you open the set. That kind of goes without saying. But I do believe in preselection to an extent. Like I opened a three set at the bar the other night, then the bartender started talking to them in the middle of my routine, probably just to cock block me. But if I'd gone for a set at one of the tables then that wouldn't have been an issue. When you day game you can try to run down a girl who walks past you on the street or at the mall, but that's a lot more effort than finding a girl who is stationary sitting down on a bench looking at her phone. This isn't to say that you can't approach a set in a less than ideal circumstance, but I do find it easier if I select sets that have less potential obstacles. But maybe that's just me being lazy... |
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| Author: | WAMaroon [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:57 am ] |
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Thanks for the reply puaninja but I would like to know criteria or any things to note in the preselection process. I can easily go up to a girl i think is cute and open her and let the cards fall where they may but I find that to be kind of inefficient and could fire back if I open a girl who is just not interested in talking and gives me poor body language. I've opened sets where the girl would barely respond so I could barely get information to begin building rapport or even find out if this girl is worth my time or not (i've actually asked a girl if she thinks she is boring because her responses were so bad). |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:36 pm ] |
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If she comes across as a lame duck, that probably means you need to do a better job at false disqualifying yourself, meaning you need to come across as NOT trying to pick her up. What your getting from them is the typical aloof bitch shield. Most women use that by default as their "go to" move whenever they are approached by strangers. It's not a matter of preselecting those that you think won't do that, because most will if you don't open them right. |
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| Author: | Infiltrator92 [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:00 pm ] |
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I think gambler talks about how he pre-selects in a club, and to be honest its all completely logical. If you catch eyes with someone across a room instead of looking away, smile, or raise your glass, or literally anything as long as it is obviously aimed at her. She then has a couple of responses. 1. She responds positively -smile back, raises glass, laughs, winks, whatever. This means that you can go and talk to her without worrying that she's not interested, she's already shown she is. 2. She is neutral -looks away quickly, doesn't hold eye contact. This is not necessarily bad but just means that she is not comfortable as comfortable with you yet, she is unsure. In this situation an approach is still on with every chance of success, but you have to bear in mind that she hasn't shown her attraction to you yet. 3. Bad response- laughs (in a malicious way), holds eye contact but does not respond with a smile and simply looks away after. This is most often a bitch shield response, and in general is what the very attractive girls who get hit on all the time do. Again an approach is still on and if you play it right it will work out better for you than either of the other responses. This is because you will have changed her mind about yourself. I'd like to point out that getting a positive response is pretty rare, especially with the most attractive girls as they have guys staring at them all the time. Neutral is the most common, as people aren't used to seeing someone who is completely comfortable holding eye contact, so they naturally look away. However as I said before this isn't a bad thing at all, it just means you have to work out where you stand first. Hope to have helped. |
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| Author: | WAMaroon [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:27 pm ] |
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Thanks for the advice puaninja. I've never used disqualifiers so i'll give them a shot. However, I was wondering if disqualifiers can be used when picking up girls off the street vs a bar or club. It would seem weird telling a girl you just met off the street that you could be my little sister. Thanks Infiltrator. I've not read any of gambler's stuff (mostly love systems, simple pickup, and this forum) so Ill take a look. |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:38 pm ] |
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look at my dtf post i cover this in detail... |
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