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| Author: | shinobi's_disciple [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Moving past the opner |
With indirect openers (e.g. opinion) I have no idea how to move on. After the groups response, how do I stay in set for an opportunity to DHV and shit like that? Other than situational openers, I like to use: jealous girlfriend, 2 girls fighting and who lies more men or women. Any tips on how to move passed the opening phase with these openers in mind? Thanks 
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| Author: | anthonypham [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moving past the opner |
Quote: With indirect openers (e.g. opinion) I have no idea how to move on.
I have to admit that I don't like opinion openers, since I think it is weird. That is my personal view.You have used an indirect opener to start a conversation. Then the indirect opener has done what it should do: open After an opener, you have to have some DHV stories to find a social hook point (=when girls like to talk to you/enjoy the funny conversation). This is the second stage. You can use a neg here. The flow will get better when you are more experienced. After DHV, you can go for KINO, qualifier, etc. (depending on the situation) Opener is just the first step, you still need to take several steps!! |
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| Author: | shinobi's_disciple [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moving past the opner |
Quote: Quote: With indirect openers (e.g. opinion) I have no idea how to move on.
I have to admit that I don't like opinion openers, since I think it is weird. That is my personal view.You have used an indirect opener to start a conversation. Then the indirect opener has done what it should do: open After an opener, you have to have some DHV stories to find a social hook point (=when girls like to talk to you/enjoy the funny conversation). This is the second stage. You can use a neg here. The flow will get better when you are more experienced. After DHV, you can go for KINO, qualifier, etc. (depending on the situation) Opener is just the first step, you still need to take several steps!!  I'm actually quite aware of the whole Mystery Method process. what I'm actually asking is how to move smoothly from the opener to ...lets say a DHV story. e.g. ME: hey, need female opnion HB GROUP: what is it ME: jelous girlfriend opener... HB: blah blah blah wtf do i do now??? i still need to address the whole group but now what? I mean i know to DHV and FTC and all that but how to do it without it seeming so random |
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| Author: | Omarr1391 [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moving past the opner |
wtf do i do now??? i still need to address the whole group but now what? I mean i know to DHV and FTC and all that but how to do it without it seeming so random[/quote] This is actually easier than you would think, you just have to be willing to not be super smooth the first few times you try it: The girls have responded to your opinion opener with the usual babble. Now you pick one in the group (preferably not your target), and with a quick hand gesture or light touch say "You know who you remind me of?" or "You remind me of____". All you do is insert the name of a girl in your story and say "Actually we were just..." or "I was just recently doing blah blah blah" and add the character into the story at some point. If she wants to act tough to get at and she says in a bitchy way "Why do I remind you of her?" or "You don't even know me" just say "You don't" or "You're right" followed by "she loves to meet new and interesting people." This exact set up has worked for me multiple times, but it has to be held together with a good DHV story in the middle. Good luck! |
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