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Author:  excusememiss [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  85% Perfect Opener
(Used in a bar/nightclub)

Whilst your stood at the bar, or dancing, or chatting to friends you should try to be looking around to see if any girls are looking at you. Once you've got eye contact twice or more do the following:

1. Wave, or
2. Poke your tongue out, or
3. Smile

To any one of those if she responds by doing the same back (so she waves, or pulls a face or smiles) then simply walk over to her and say "Hi"

If she responds by looking away or "What the hell are you doing?!" look, then what have you lost? You could still approach her but shes going to be harder work.

On the dance floor "The Bump" works well or a silly dance move will work to open girls. "The Bump" is simple: While your dancing, just "Bump" hips with a girl next to you (Not too hard!!) She may bump back in which case you can escalate or she may just move away. Again what have you lost?

I do these things every time I go out, the majority of the time they work and at a low cost. Enjoy!
Author:  WhatisLove [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:58 am ]
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I will definately try these next time I go out and I will let you know if it works ;)
Author:  0uch [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:01 pm ]
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LOL @ this thread!

If your afraid of rejection from the opening stage, good luck trying to have sex with her. Rejection is a huge obstacle, and you have to accept the fact that girls are gonna blow you out and not care about it all. And opening is a great way to get rid or fear of rejection.

By the way, most girls are super friendly, will talk to you.
Author:  nighter [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:03 pm ]
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theese seem like a nice openers. respect.
i think that relaxed, positive and guys in a good and happy/funny mode have more chance than 'cool' and 'misterious' ones!
i do some things liek that too. but i usually go to places where most of people is relaxed and focused on having a good time - girls in these kind of places are more friendly and open, than in some popular and fancy clubs.
i like positive and relaxed girls more than fancy and bitchy ones - im happy for that
Author:  Phate890 [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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Everything OP mentioned in this thread is covered in the 'Stealth Attraction' program made by Gambler.

If OP or anybody else hasn't seen Stealth Attraction yet, I recommend watching it :)

~Phate
Author:  how_r_u [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:11 pm ]
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Yeah it's Gambler's stuff but I like it! I hope this works as well in daygame. Time to find out I guess.
Author:  Sluggler [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:40 pm ]
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Yeah it's Gambler's stuff but I like it! I hope this works as well in daygame. Time to find out I guess.
Haha! Nice!

Yeah i will agree. i respect the approach but its really not that hard. I think some guys over internalize the approach. Just approach with a genuine opinion, or direct opener.
  • I've been hitting the game hard, and i know that there is NO different between day game and night game. Just different scenery. :)

    Like honestly i see a lot of threads on this forum about the "Perfect Opener" and such when its not even TRULY about your opener, its about what happens after that. You could use some "Magic Opener" and then crash and burn as soon as its time to build comfort and attraction. I think for new guys you should familiarize yourself with opening sets, yes, but you must realize opening isnt as a HUGE deal as you think.

    Its a big step when you first get into the game, but just be aware the the comfort, qualification, and attraction stage of a interaction is the most important. I'm not knocking your openers because Gambler actually uses these in one of his videos.
Author:  how_r_u [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:49 am ]
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@Sluggler:

I agree, but from my experience (only 25 directs in the daytime) a good opener and a good follow-up help a lot.
Author:  The Grin [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:28 am ]
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theese seem like a nice openers. respect.
i think that relaxed, positive and guys in a good and happy/funny mode have more chance than 'cool' and 'misterious' ones!
i do some things liek that too. but i usually go to places where most of people is relaxed and focused on having a good time - girls in these kind of places are more friendly and open, than in some popular and fancy clubs.
i like positive and relaxed girls more than fancy and bitchy ones - im happy for that
I agree on this, if you're a guy that really seems nice and positive that will help you a lot. Goodlooking will help you as well in these openers, I would say.
Author:  Frank91 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:20 pm ]
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I've tried all of them before of reading this post, waving, tongue and smiling. The smile is the easiest to miss, or the worst of them, as they would normally think you are just smiling to everyone and see who catches. Don't like it, but if you use the other of course you have to smile. The tongue out haven't tried too much, but the few times I did I got smiles. The waving is the most effective of them.

BUT, I don't like them too much. They are cool, but they raise barriers. If you enter a woman that knows for few seconds that you are entering her, she raises her barriers. I think it's a bit 'coward' (not trying to insult anyone, it's just how now I feel I was when using them) to use them. I prefer to simply go to talk with her. A smile and showing palms will make you non threatening and looking honest, and you can ask for anything. I have tried the OP tips in both day and night game. The go straight and talk to her is for day game.

For night game I consider myself pretty bad in general, but in Japan I could *close many girls with this. First you go to a set and look at them. If they don't look bad at you, grab the HB you want hand and keep dancing with her. You really have to calibrate, be in a good mood and smile so she wants to dance with you. This is a bit violent and some (it depends a lot on you) will pull, but if you are in a good mood, it will work a lot. As you have her one hand up and dancing, spin her once. If she hasn't taken her hand out, she will not complain, do the spin and then laugh. That's the moment. Pseudo isolate. That means, grab her other hand with you free hand, turn her back to her friends so they are still close. This way, their friends don't try to get her back from a random person as she's just there, but she won't feel her friends close so she will feel more intimate. If you got to this point, you are completely in. Now you have to move her hands down and put them on your shoulders, after a second or so with your hands on hers on your shoulders, put yours on her hips. Keep dancing for a while. I like to think of this as building comfort, she gets used to the idea of such explicit kissing position. Kiss her. Time spent, under 5 minutes, 1 *close. It works with about 1 out of 3 women you try to dance with.

I haven't had much time to keep experimenting on this really fast *closing and how to continue from here, as I couldn't believe that I was *closing so many girls so fast, but I think that slowing things a bit down (maybe 10/15 mins in total with some talking, I'd say really explicit DHV bits since it's loud and long DHV would become DLV) will make it better for further interaction. Anyway I didn't like it too much, I truly prefer daygame.

PS, an alternative MUCH more effective than waving, poking your tongue, smiling or bumping is, in a club that they give soft glowsticks, hit hot chicks with it in their head (obviously in a playful way). I assure you that they are not used to this and many will answer positively.
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