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Author:  Exbar [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:47 am ]
Post subject:  Doesn't seem to matter what you say.
Lately it seems to me whether I open direct or indirect and opening like I'm not even hitting on them they just seem to want to flake off or be stuck up. Ive just been having trouble lately on this. I know there is no excuse, there is always a way to get a girl to open up, whether she's a "bitch" or stuck up. Its becoming a sticking point for me. I hate falling into the interview questions like "Who are you here with", "Where are you from" etc. And even saying something random to catch them off guard gets you weird looks.

What are some tactics some of you use to crash the "bitch shield" or have a girl open up with out having her guard up right away?
Author:  Pickwick [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:27 am ]
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How's your body language doing?
Author:  Exbar [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:11 pm ]
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I atleast feel it's good. I stand with my back straight, don't turn to face them unless they seem receptive. I dont lean in unless I really can't hear something they said I smile when speaking and make eye contact. I dont stand directly in front usaully more to the side. What are your thoughts? Suggestions?
Author:  Deduct [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:15 am ]
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Instead of asking questions make assumptions
'who are you with?' -> 'are you with them/did you come here all alone?'
'whats your job?' -> 'you look like you work in pharmaceutics'

interview style is gone AND you will motivate her to elaborate on her answers.

And it doesn't necessarily have to be a bitch shield, she just doesn't know what she should talk about. Since she has never met you before etc you have no apparent things in common.

hope this will help =]
Author:  Exbar [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:04 pm ]
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Yeah! Damn I forgot all about that actually. I guess I should be saying things that almost make her respond and then in turn pull on any information that's given to continue the conversation.

Thanks for that.
Author:  Pickwick [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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Yeah, exactly what Deduct said. If your body language is confident, avoid those interview questions. As Dale Carnegie said, people are most interested in themselves. If, as using Deduct's example, you said she looks like she works in pharmaceutics, she will mostly be interested what it is about her that makes you say so. You're not showing general interest in her by asking questions, which is what all AFCs will do.

Don't be down on yourself. You have to be willing to fail if you want to succeed.
Author:  Exbar [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:59 am ]
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Awesome. Thanks for the remarks everyone.
Author:  Deduct [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:29 pm ]
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No problems ;]

Hope it will improve your game! have fun
Author:  AFC AzA [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:57 pm ]
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I atleast feel it's good. I stand with my back straight, don't turn to face them unless they seem receptive. I dont lean in unless I really can't hear something they said I smile when speaking and make eye contact. I dont stand directly in front usaully more to the side. What are your thoughts? Suggestions?
try cold approaches. stop thinking every little things and just let it happen.
say whats popped up in your mind. lately I realized micro body language is
most important thing.

- one glance
- one arm movement
- one vocal tonality

only way you can master those are getting through lot of negative feedbacks.
thats how I did it... I ignored, burned dow so many times, but now I dont think
but my micro expression and body language is fucking super when I'm in state.

and I can say any s2pid things, and get physical so aggresive in so less time.
Author:  suave69 [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:38 pm ]
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First of all, how's your energy level? Like so many have said before, be high energy...

As for interview questions - accept that they are going to happen at some point or another they are going to come up, whether you ask them or she asks them. The SOLUTION to triggering interesting conversation when these come up is to have prepared an interesting answer or response... for example -

I'll freeze up so I ask a standard boring questions - "so where are you from?"... she replies "Dallas" or some bullshit, doesn't matter. My response - Oh Dallas huh? I went skydiving there last month, or I saw Miley Cirus in concert there last month! or whatever the fuck you want that's interesting and can help start sea conversation... as long as its something you have knowledge about or canned material prepared for.

The point is - sit your ass down and come up with a short list of typical boring questions and then make a list of exciting, DHV, attraction building, or whatever the fuck you want to call it answers for them. It's worked wonders for me.

Hope that helped :)
Author:  Chase_Mase [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:47 am ]
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Great advice so far! Exbar youre going to do great just keep your chin up champ

But when you said...
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Yeah! Damn I forgot all about that actually. I guess I should be saying things that almost make her respond and then in turn pull on any information that's given to continue the conversation.
...this is typical convo buddy. you seem a like you dont drool on yourself very often so i think its safe to assume that you know how to have a normal conversation. So this leads to a question.... How high is your confidence? Now - not to say I dont know what your confidence level - but logic dictates that you really were not interest to have energy to conversant or, perhaps, you were showing lack of confidence by "shutting down with game" or "im in my bubble - wheres your bubble from?".

half of openers are really retarded - swear! like "would you sleep with jesus?" is a 13 yr olds convo but when you sayy it with a lot of confidence and energy, its fail proof to at least get their name, address, and social security number!..

SMILE! and fucking own some chicks ;)
Author:  Exbar [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 am ]
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Great advice everyone appreciate the input.

And to chase mace. I think the confidence thing is always up and down for me. However I realize I just over think way too much. When I'm relaxed an just approach without thinking I never have to worry about conversation it just happens naturally, which should really just be "normal" behavior. Your absolutely right high energy is a must.

Thanks.
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