PUA Forum :: Club too loud

Hello, first i'd like to introduce myself as Reitling. Its not my real name (obviously), but it will do for now. I'm a 19 years old, not a virgin, had 2 girlfriends in the past, and have an easy time hooking up with girls I already know. I'm pretty good looking (In my opinion), but have a hard time hooking up with random sexy women I meet at the club.

I looked over a bunch of openers I read in the book "The Game" and saw on the show "The pick up Artist", but none of them suit me. So I made my own opening; "Hey me and my friend are in a heated debate and I just came to get an outside opinion; if you girls had one wish, what would it be? Now you can't be cheeky and wish for more wishes, or be even cheekier and wish your friend could wish for more wishes". The problem with this, and potentially every original line I made up, was that the clubs in Dubai are always WAYYY too LOUD. They can't here a word i'm saying. On top of all that, most of the people here are foreign, meaning they can hardly speak a word of english; so not only can I not make my openings be heard, but also the girls can't understand me even if they could catch a word or two that I say.

How do you guys suggest I overcome this? I tried making it simple and asking straight up to dance, but they rejected me in body language. I could only comunicate in body language because of how loud clubs are. When my dance proposals got rejected, I offered them to join our VIP table, they ALSO said no! So I was stumped, what the hell can I do? I can't put on any game because they can't here me, and even if they could, half of them can't understand me. If I try to enact the message "DO YOU WANT TO DANCE?!" or "DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME AT MY TABLE" I almost always get rejected.

What are your suggestions?

Peace out; Reitling (named after Breitling; cuz it got class and so do I)

Ok, straight off, the opener is good but break it down into smaller chunks. If you walk over and say all of that then the girl is just going to feel like she is getting talked at, not to. Example, say the first part 'Hey I need your opinion on something, me and my friend are'...pause..'.ok?'(as if seeking affirmation it's ok to speak to them and it will make you aware if there are any language barriers) and when she responds with 'ok' cut it very short, almost interrupting, as if you didn't really care whether she said yes or no, and this can act as a neg as well. Second, girls get guys asking to dance and come to their table all the time, make it more unique. Lastly, I'm stumped on the foreign girl problem as well. I just made a thread about it, it's very frustrating.
EDIT: Wait until the girl replies to say the last part, the word cheeky is suggestive but might scare them off if they haven't responded positively to the opener

I looked over a bunch of openers I read in the book "The Game" and saw on the show "The pick up Artist", but none of them suit me. So I made my own opening; "Hey me and my friend are in a heated debate and I just came to get an outside opinion; if you girls had one wish, what would it be? Now you can't be cheeky and wish for more wishes, or be even cheekier and wish your friend could wish for more wishes". The problem with this, and potentially every original line I made up, was that the clubs in Dubai are always WAYYY too LOUD. They can't here a word i'm saying. On top of all that, most of the people here are foreign, meaning they can hardly speak a word of english; so not only can I not make my openings be heard, but also the girls can't understand me even if they could catch a word or two that I say.

How do you guys suggest I overcome this? I tried making it simple and asking straight up to dance, but they rejected me in body language. I could only comunicate in body language because of how loud clubs are. When my dance proposals got rejected, I offered them to join our VIP table, they ALSO said no! So I was stumped, what the hell can I do? I can't put on any game because they can't here me, and even if they could, half of them can't understand me. If I try to enact the message "DO YOU WANT TO DANCE?!" or "DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME AT MY TABLE" I almost always get rejected.

What are your suggestions?

Peace out; Reitling (named after Breitling; cuz it got class and so do I)

I would keep away from openers specially at the club, look for my perfect opener post in this section... women generally go to the club and dance, if you are doing dancefloor game keep talking to a minimum, use dancing to attract and seduce, do not ask girls to dance, just dance...

The problem is in a loud club game "the game" which is mystery method will not work, actually mystery calls "dance floor game a trap" Club game different than regular game, anything from "the game" you try in a club will not only make you look like a loony, it will not work, click on my link at the end so you can learn what is effective in a loud club...If you want to try stuff from "the game" do it in that patio, outside or in the low noise areas of the club...

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I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism).

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Again; never knew.. I'll definitely look into your posts, thanks a bunch

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I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism).

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Again; never knew.. I'll definitely look into your posts, thanks a bunch

Dancefloor game=involves dance
club game: is running game in loud venues..

Women in both scenarios have really short attention spam...I think is more effective going direct and physical... But if you want to run "game"Mystery method, as i said you could do it in low noise areas...For me is a waste of time compare to the other approaches..

I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism).

Learn how to dance. Have sick dance floor game. My buddy is a good dancer just goes on the dance floor start dancing and women start approaching him. Thing is, he does not do it for the women and he actually just enjoys dancing.

There are varios skill sets that the community has gotten into a habit of forming "game" categories if you will such as:

-Night Game or Club Game
-Day Game
-Online Game
-Dance Floor Game
-High School Game
-Text Game

Truthfully they all have their own sets of requirements, ideas, and philosphies, and are treated differently but a lot of the same principals apply across each ones.

Author:	Reitling [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:03 am ]
Post subject:	Club too loud
Hello, first i'd like to introduce myself as Reitling. Its not my real name (obviously), but it will do for now. I'm a 19 years old, not a virgin, had 2 girlfriends in the past, and have an easy time hooking up with girls I already know. I'm pretty good looking (In my opinion), but have a hard time hooking up with random sexy women I meet at the club. I looked over a bunch of openers I read in the book "The Game" and saw on the show "The pick up Artist", but none of them suit me. So I made my own opening; "Hey me and my friend are in a heated debate and I just came to get an outside opinion; if you girls had one wish, what would it be? Now you can't be cheeky and wish for more wishes, or be even cheekier and wish your friend could wish for more wishes". The problem with this, and potentially every original line I made up, was that the clubs in Dubai are always WAYYY too LOUD. They can't here a word i'm saying. On top of all that, most of the people here are foreign, meaning they can hardly speak a word of english; so not only can I not make my openings be heard, but also the girls can't understand me even if they could catch a word or two that I say. How do you guys suggest I overcome this? I tried making it simple and asking straight up to dance, but they rejected me in body language. I could only comunicate in body language because of how loud clubs are. When my dance proposals got rejected, I offered them to join our VIP table, they ALSO said no! So I was stumped, what the hell can I do? I can't put on any game because they can't here me, and even if they could, half of them can't understand me. If I try to enact the message "DO YOU WANT TO DANCE?!" or "DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME AT MY TABLE" I almost always get rejected. What are your suggestions? Peace out; Reitling (named after Breitling; cuz it got class and so do I)

Author:	Gbebz [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: Hello, first i'd like to introduce myself as Reitling. Its not my real name (obviously), but it will do for now. I'm a 19 years old, not a virgin, had 2 girlfriends in the past, and have an easy time hooking up with girls I already know. I'm pretty good looking (In my opinion), but have a hard time hooking up with random sexy women I meet at the club. I looked over a bunch of openers I read in the book "The Game" and saw on the show "The pick up Artist", but none of them suit me. So I made my own opening; "Hey me and my friend are in a heated debate and I just came to get an outside opinion; if you girls had one wish, what would it be? Now you can't be cheeky and wish for more wishes, or be even cheekier and wish your friend could wish for more wishes". The problem with this, and potentially every original line I made up, was that the clubs in Dubai are always WAYYY too LOUD. They can't here a word i'm saying. On top of all that, most of the people here are foreign, meaning they can hardly speak a word of english; so not only can I not make my openings be heard, but also the girls can't understand me even if they could catch a word or two that I say. How do you guys suggest I overcome this? I tried making it simple and asking straight up to dance, but they rejected me in body language. I could only comunicate in body language because of how loud clubs are. When my dance proposals got rejected, I offered them to join our VIP table, they ALSO said no! So I was stumped, what the hell can I do? I can't put on any game because they can't here me, and even if they could, half of them can't understand me. If I try to enact the message "DO YOU WANT TO DANCE?!" or "DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME AT MY TABLE" I almost always get rejected. What are your suggestions? Peace out; Reitling (named after Breitling; cuz it got class and so do I) Ok, straight off, the opener is good but break it down into smaller chunks. If you walk over and say all of that then the girl is just going to feel like she is getting talked at, not to. Example, say the first part 'Hey I need your opinion on something, me and my friend are'...pause..'.ok?'(as if seeking affirmation it's ok to speak to them and it will make you aware if there are any language barriers) and when she responds with 'ok' cut it very short, almost interrupting, as if you didn't really care whether she said yes or no, and this can act as a neg as well. Second, girls get guys asking to dance and come to their table all the time, make it more unique. Lastly, I'm stumped on the foreign girl problem as well. I just made a thread about it, it's very frustrating. EDIT: Wait until the girl replies to say the last part, the word cheeky is suggestive but might scare them off if they haven't responded positively to the opener

Author:	Reitling [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: Ok, straight off, the opener is good but break it down into smaller chunks. If you walk over and say all of that then the girl is just going to feel like she is getting talked at, not to. Example, say the first part 'Hey I need your opinion on something, me and my friend are'...pause..'.ok?'(as if seeking affirmation it's ok to speak to them and it will make you aware if there are any language barriers) and when she responds with 'ok' cut it very short, almost interrupting, as if you didn't really care whether she said yes or no, and this can act as a neg as well. Second, girls get guys asking to dance and come to their table all the time, make it more unique. Lastly, I'm stumped on the foreign girl problem as well. I just made a thread about it, it's very frustrating. EDIT: Wait until the girl replies to say the last part, the word cheeky is suggestive but might scare them off if they haven't responded positively to the opener I tried that, all that seems to happen is that the two friends turn their backs, while the unhott one keeps her attention to be polite. They ask me "What?" and when I try to repeat they still can't hear me, making me lose attention from the whole group, so I end up just walking away. One even shouted in my ear "I speak English none, from Kazakestan". What the hell is that, A PUA's best tool is his words, if half my words can't be heard, and the other half can't be understood, what does a man have left to use?

Author:	skills360 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: Hello, first i'd like to introduce myself as Reitling. Its not my real name (obviously), but it will do for now. I'm a 19 years old, not a virgin, had 2 girlfriends in the past, and have an easy time hooking up with girls I already know. I'm pretty good looking (In my opinion), but have a hard time hooking up with random sexy women I meet at the club. Looks help, but looks and no skills, will get you nowhere... Quote: I looked over a bunch of openers I read in the book "The Game" and saw on the show "The pick up Artist", but none of them suit me. So I made my own opening; "Hey me and my friend are in a heated debate and I just came to get an outside opinion; if you girls had one wish, what would it be? Now you can't be cheeky and wish for more wishes, or be even cheekier and wish your friend could wish for more wishes". The problem with this, and potentially every original line I made up, was that the clubs in Dubai are always WAYYY too LOUD. They can't here a word i'm saying. On top of all that, most of the people here are foreign, meaning they can hardly speak a word of english; so not only can I not make my openings be heard, but also the girls can't understand me even if they could catch a word or two that I say. I would keep away from openers specially at the club, look for my perfect opener post in this section... women generally go to the club and dance, if you are doing dancefloor game keep talking to a minimum, use dancing to attract and seduce, do not ask girls to dance, just dance... Quote: How do you guys suggest I overcome this? I tried making it simple and asking straight up to dance, but they rejected me in body language. I could only comunicate in body language because of how loud clubs are. When my dance proposals got rejected, I offered them to join our VIP table, they ALSO said no! So I was stumped, what the hell can I do? I can't put on any game because they can't here me, and even if they could, half of them can't understand me. If I try to enact the message "DO YOU WANT TO DANCE?!" or "DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME AT MY TABLE" I almost always get rejected. What are your suggestions? Peace out; Reitling (named after Breitling; cuz it got class and so do I) The problem is in a loud club game "the game" which is mystery method will not work, actually mystery calls "dance floor game a trap" Club game different than regular game, anything from "the game" you try in a club will not only make you look like a loony, it will not work, click on my link at the end so you can learn what is effective in a loud club...If you want to try stuff from "the game" do it in that patio, outside or in the low noise areas of the club...

Author:	JSmooth [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:23 pm ]
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Most of what is in The Game has been used way too much so yeah don't use that stuff. Indirect openers are fine if you find some good ones or write your own if you want. In a club you are going to have to learn how to project your voice, pause after smaller bits being said, and have good eye contact with the person you are talking too. Clubs are loud because hot girls can ignore guys who are trying to hit on them. It makes a "Social Excuse" for not hearing them and making a nice little place for hot women to go without being bothered as much. That curtain of loud music you are going to have to cut through. The hotter the women in the clubs the louder the music. Just the way it is. There are non-verbal openers in addition to verbal stuff you can do in a club. Which may be a good place for you to get started. You can use the excuse all you want that the club is too loud to open, but I can point out tons of guys on here who make it work all across the world.

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Author:	ParadisePua [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:32 pm ]
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just ask the dj to lower the volume

Author:	Reitling [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: I would keep away from openers specially at the club, look for my perfect opener post in this section... women generally go to the club and dance, if you are doing dancefloor game keep talking to a minimum, use dancing to attract and seduce, do not ask girls to dance, just dance... I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism). Quote: The problem is in a loud club game "the game" which is mystery method will not work, actually mystery calls "dance floor game a trap" Club game different than regular game, anything from "the game" you try in a club will not only make you look like a loony, it will not work, click on my link at the end so you can learn what is effective in a loud club...If you want to try stuff from "the game" do it in that patio, outside or in the low noise areas of the club... Again; never knew.. I'll definitely look into your posts, thanks a bunch

Author:	skills360 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: Quote: I would keep away from openers specially at the club, look for my perfect opener post in this section... women generally go to the club and dance, if you are doing dancefloor game keep talking to a minimum, use dancing to attract and seduce, do not ask girls to dance, just dance... I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism). Quote: The problem is in a loud club game "the game" which is mystery method will not work, actually mystery calls "dance floor game a trap" Club game different than regular game, anything from "the game" you try in a club will not only make you look like a loony, it will not work, click on my link at the end so you can learn what is effective in a loud club...If you want to try stuff from "the game" do it in that patio, outside or in the low noise areas of the club... Again; never knew.. I'll definitely look into your posts, thanks a bunch Dancefloor game=involves dance club game: is running game in loud venues.. Women in both scenarios have really short attention spam...I think is more effective going direct and physical... But if you want to run "game"Mystery method, as i said you could do it in low noise areas...For me is a waste of time compare to the other approaches..

Author:	Reitling [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: Quote: Quote: I would keep away from openers specially at the club, look for my perfect opener post in this section... women generally go to the club and dance, if you are doing dancefloor game keep talking to a minimum, use dancing to attract and seduce, do not ask girls to dance, just dance... I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism). Quote: The problem is in a loud club game "the game" which is mystery method will not work, actually mystery calls "dance floor game a trap" Club game different than regular game, anything from "the game" you try in a club will not only make you look like a loony, it will not work, click on my link at the end so you can learn what is effective in a loud club...If you want to try stuff from "the game" do it in that patio, outside or in the low noise areas of the club... Again; never knew.. I'll definitely look into your posts, thanks a bunch Dancefloor game=involves dance club game: is running game in loud venues.. Women in both scenarios have really short attention spam...I think is more effective going direct and physical... But if you want to run "game"Mystery method, as i said you could do it in low noise areas...For me is a waste of time compare to the other approaches.. Daamn man, I just read your post. I was blind but now I see; thanks A LOT man, I really needed to know that. I'm going to Sharm El-Sheikh (Egypt) in about a week, its like the party capital of the Middle East, full of hot russians and italians, ill definitely work on all that every day (we'll be going every day because I know the owner). Actually, I'll even make my own thread for field reports to see how far I go during the 2 months I stay there.

Author:	0uch [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:44 am ]
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Learn how to dance. Have sick dance floor game. My buddy is a good dancer just goes on the dance floor start dancing and women start approaching him. Thing is, he does not do it for the women and he actually just enjoys dancing.

Author:	In$tinct [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Club too loud
Quote: I never knew there was even anything called 'Club Game'. I just thought that there was only one kind of 'Game', which is the Mystery Method (Well, all the ones without hypnotism). There are a bunch of other types of game. But it doesn't really matter since all girls have different personalities so that's when calibration comes in. You could have the tightest game, if you can't calibrate you will only get one type of girl(or none)

Author:	skills360 [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:14 pm ]
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Quote: Learn how to dance. Have sick dance floor game. My buddy is a good dancer just goes on the dance floor start dancing and women start approaching him. Thing is, he does not do it for the women and he actually just enjoys dancing. ^ +1

Author:	JSmooth [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:58 pm ]
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There are varios skill sets that the community has gotten into a habit of forming "game" categories if you will such as: -Night Game or Club Game -Day Game -Online Game -Dance Floor Game -High School Game -Text Game Truthfully they all have their own sets of requirements, ideas, and philosphies, and are treated differently but a lot of the same principals apply across each ones.

Author:	Reitling [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:38 pm ]
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Quote: There are varios skill sets that the community has gotten into a habit of forming "game" categories if you will such as: -Night Game or Club Game -Day Game -Online Game -Dance Floor Game -High School Game -Text Game Truthfully they all have their own sets of requirements, ideas, and philosphies, and are treated differently but a lot of the same principals apply across each ones. You know, I was always the obsessive type. Not in the sort that I obsess over a girl (one-itis), but in the sense that if I get into something, I wanna know everything about it. I want to conquer this, not because I like power, or dominance, or even to get ANY girl I want. I truly believe that Pick-up isn't just about women, its more about learning to socialize to its full extent. I'm doing this whole thing because women are the hardest people for a man to randomly win over in a short period of time, and once i've got that down, my future work dynamic will be much better. If a person has great charisma, confidence, and an understanding of social dynamics, they will stand out. People rise in the workplace not only based on how many word documents they can write up before collapsing, but also how they shine in front of their bosses. I want to be a lawyer, and my ultimate achievement is to be like 'Harvey' from suits, and to BE that, I need to display an unexplained, subtle charisma that not only women, but bosses are fond of. At the end of the day, my goal isn't getting with 1000 girls at the club, my goal is financial and corporate success. To do that, this is, I believe, truly essential.

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