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Author:  FuturePUA2010 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:36 pm ]
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Could someone provide me with a good routine stack from approaching to number closing ? Ive been approaching a lot lately but what I've noticed is that the conversation is a little all over the place. Thanks
Author:  FuturePUA2010 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:36 pm ]
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Could someone provide me with a good routine stack from approaching to number closing ? Ive been approaching a lot lately but what I've noticed is that the conversation is a little all over the place. Thanks
My two cents:

#1 You open her
#2 Ask her what "her story is"
#3 Listen to her bullshit while she tires herself out
#4 Tell her you gotta go but you think shes fun and you wanna hang out

9 out of 10 will let you number close if you didnt make a major Phuck up in the process.
Is it seriously this easy? Would she wanna reveal everything about herself right after you open her? I feel like that's a really large hoop for her to jump through...
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:12 am ]
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Basically what TonyKing is doing is jumping straight to a large qualifier right off the bat. Thats a great technique that can save you alot of time IF and only IF you got attraction right from the opener. You CAN get attraction straight off the opener if you're confident and well dressed and especially if you open her direct, because going direct shows balls. Its a great way to test and see how much attraction you got right away. If she answers that with anything substantial, then you know you're good to go and you don't have to waste any time doing other bullshit. I personally love shit like this and I have a similar style to TonyKing, because I hate wasting time and I've gotten to a point where I don't care if taking that risk blows me out, because I'd rather get blown out early on instead of wasting a bunch of time with a girl and then finding out shes not that into me. So, you do techniques like that KNOWING the risk.

So, you can definitely do stuff like that, but if you want to play it a little safer you can start off with smaller hoops like "Oh you're name is Jessica. I dated a girl named Jessica. She was kinda crazy though. You're not crazy right? I mean, you're not like a psycho or anything right?" You say this jokingly of course, she shouldn't actually think that you think she might be psycho.

If I were you, I would write 2 openers, 2 teases, 1 small qualifier, 1 medium qualifier, 1 large qualifier and 2 stories that you can tell in pretty much any set. Then, you can just run through your material. You can still freeflow with all the regular small talk inbetween, but you make sure you hit all those points throughout the conversation. Thats how Sinn taught me to do it when I was first learning.
Author:  FuturePUA2010 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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Thanks a bunch for your clarification Dave! I really couldnt force myself to write a long reply. Im glad you explained the concept to TS so he doesnt make the mistake of standing there in his sweat paints with a shaky voice going "whats y-y-y-your s-s-story" lulz :D
how do you know if you have attraction right from the start?
Author:  FuturePUA2010 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:30 am ]
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Usually you dont unless you start recieving strong IOIs directly which is unusual. If you however can DHV through your confidence from the first second you open, she'll give you the time you need to build attraction and present your strong frame/personality to her. This is usually done within the first 30-45 sec of interaction. When you see that you've opened successfully you than run the "Whats ur story" thing.

While she tells you about herself, look her in the eyes and imagine yourself fucking this broad sensless. She WILL pick up on this energy. If she tells something funny, laugh and TOUCH her shoulder and go "omg thats so funny" - Just be cool and have fun, dont think that you MUST get it on with her, enjoy urself!
are you literally saying "what's your story?"
Author:  inmate [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:39 pm ]
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Most of you seem to know alot, anyone ever taken any
bootcamps?
Author:  FuturePUA2010 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:52 pm ]
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Usually you dont unless you start recieving strong IOIs directly which is unusual. If you however can DHV through your confidence from the first second you open, she'll give you the time you need to build attraction and present your strong frame/personality to her. This is usually done within the first 30-45 sec of interaction. When you see that you've opened successfully you than run the "Whats ur story" thing.

While she tells you about herself, look her in the eyes and imagine yourself fucking this broad sensless. She WILL pick up on this energy. If she tells something funny, laugh and TOUCH her shoulder and go "omg thats so funny" - Just be cool and have fun, dont think that you MUST get it on with her, enjoy urself!
are you literally saying "what's your story?"
Yeah dude, i walk up to her, open the convo with something that'll make her smile, maintain eye contact and just go "so what's your story" or "tell me your story" i mean why would anyone want to make things more complicated than they need to be right?

Sometimes you'll really get a LONG story and some replies will be shorter but they'll both give you useful information about your target that you can use in your game.

EDIT: If you feel that she just keeps on talking and talking, don't be afraid to interrupt. Interrupting her is NOT a DLV
I will try this but I know that if a stranger walked up to me and aske me such a big question I would be a bit puzzled. Has a girl ever not known what to say or not said anything ?
Author:  pumpington [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:41 am ]
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ask yourself why you are approaching this girl and how she makes you feel, then figure out exactly what you want from her (friendship, relationship, fb, just sex),

walk up, speak your mind

-express your intentions (tell her why you are approaching her, address the situation, emote to her and express how she makes you feel)

-set out exactly what you want from her (screen her fast for the compliance you are looking for and at what level)

-set a frame around the meaning for what you are looking for

-get to know her and screen her for what you want, if she is not falling into the frame and is not compliant, then go find a different girl, don't change the strategy, if she won't fall in with the frame then she is not looking for the same thing, easier to talk to a new girl then to ''change'' or ''win over'' a girl

-once you have decided that she has fit the frame of what you were looking for, qualify her to that, let her know what it is you like about her and why she is qualified, just be honest (if she actually doesn't fit what you were looking for, you can also just be honest about that also and dis-qualify/tease her)

-depending on the situation and your logistics, try to get her to hang out with you right then and there, no number close, straight onto a mini-date, if you don't have time, then set up a future date, be specific with what you want from her and what day, ask her if she likes that, maybe ask her what her favourite place to hang out is, you could also take her there, the more the date appeals to her the better, just lead things to that place yourself,

set up the date, drop a reason you have to leave, give her a missed call in person, make sure she has your number (and that she gave you her real number), start texting her soon after the close and continue a conversation, then after you have rapport established, just fall off with her until the date and let her come to you

GOOD LUCK
Author:  sawyer24 [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:50 am ]
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Could someone provide me with a good routine stack from approaching to number closing ? Ive been approaching a lot lately but what I've noticed is that the conversation is a little all over the place. Thanks
My two cents:

#1 You open her
#2 Ask her what "her story is"
#3 Listen to her bullshit while she tires herself out
#4 Tell her you gotta go but you think shes fun and you wanna hang out

9 out of 10 will let you number close if you didnt make a major Phuck up in the process.
Beware though. He's right about the 9 out of 10, this is because girls don't want to be rude. The real challenge is getting her to text back the next day.
Author:  0uch [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:25 pm ]
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Could someone provide me with a good routine stack from approaching to number closing ? Ive been approaching a lot lately but what I've noticed is that the conversation is a little all over the place. Thanks
My two cents:

#1 You open her
#2 Ask her what "her story is"
#3 Listen to her bullshit while she tires herself out
#4 Tell her you gotta go but you think shes fun and you wanna hang out

9 out of 10 will let you number close if you didnt make a major Phuck up in the process.
Beware though. He's right about the 9 out of 10, this is because girls don't want to be rude. The real challenge is getting her to text back the next day.
That's great, but imagine doing this for hours when talking to a girl. She will get bored and feel like she is being interviewed.

Do that, but add lots of bantering to your conversation. I like building comfort and attraction at same time which breaks the rule of mystery method. This will, make the conversation really fun, while you build comfort.

Just recently, I had a 9 hour straight conversation with this girl I sarged, and it feel short cause we were having so much fun. However, this takes practice. When I am with my boys, we banter a lot, and in order to do that with women, I just had to get comfortable being around them. Now that I can bring my personality out, it makes it more fun for both of us.
Author:  Skuzzle1008 [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:41 pm ]
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While she tells you about herself, look her in the eyes and imagine yourself fucking this broad sensless. She WILL pick up on this energy.
Wow that's actually pretty good! I'll try it out sometime and we'll see what happens.
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