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Author:  Ziffer [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:32 am ]
Post subject:  Online sarging (Can't figure out what went wrong.)
Online Sarge report1
Me:I am sorry but andrew vanwyngarden is not that great. If you really think all guys are filth you just been looking in all the wrong places. Just saying.
HB7:oh smart one aren't you!
i didn't say all i said almost all.
ME:I am glad we agree upon something. Why are you looking for your true love when you haven't even truly experienced life? There is so many things you miss out on when your in a relationship.
HB7:LOL seriously who are you tell me all this shit
ME:I am just a person just like you just trying to bestow upon you a little bit of wisdom that I have learned. If you don't want to listen then thats your choice, but hey I have dated women before and fallen in love... and fallen out of love. When I was in love I just devoted myself to them so much that I missed out on a lot of experiences in life that I would of had if it had not been for her. Just saying.
HB7:Hey same can be said for you. You don't know me either. Hey I am sorry if I offended you, but thats still what I got to say. Hey they only way ill know you and you will know me is if we tell each other or read the profiles we put up, and thats the assumption that i thought when I read your profile.
HB7:No response yet
Online Sarge Report 2
ME:Don't you think it is a little pretentious to hate someone just because they don't like everything you like in your profile. Just saying.
HB8:Don't you think it's a little presumptuous to think I was being serious?
ME:Ehh a little, but I don't know you so I can only go off what you put in your profile... right. The crazyiest thing ever! ... Do you beilieve in hypnotism?
HB8: I thought the "I'll probably hate you" part kind of set the tone as being sarcastic. You know, just like when you say "the craziest thing ever!" ...which I guess was meant either to establish yourself as a douche bag or was directed at hypnotism. It seemed a bit unclear and so I couldn't really tell.
ME:It was directed at the the hypnotism comment, but I am a douche bag at times. Actually my x girl friend got me into hypnosis its quite incredible. It can actually be used to heal people, and change their mindsets. I actually tried it for the first time the other day. Have you ever had a feeling of being absolutely relaxed ... Compleyely calm, taking in every word you hear?
HB8 No response yet
Author:  Faust23 [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:45 am ]
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Umm I confused? Seems like the girls don't get it either.

I thought we are suppose to be cocky&funny and playful.
Author:  Beetle [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:34 am ]
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Not enough cocky and funny, not enough to the point, and you aren't getting them in the mood to meet up with you, you just provide a reasonably interesting conversation.

Save the interesting conversations for real life, the point online is to get them to meet you.
Author:  Don Draper [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:19 pm ]
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I would advise you to shorten your messages.

Compare the message lengths between yours and hers, keep things vague. You don't owe her any explanations.
Author:  Ziffer [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:39 pm ]
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So, if you shouldn't talk to them about interesting topics then what should you message them about?
Author:  Faust23 [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:49 pm ]
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Quote:
So, if you shouldn't talk to them about interesting topics then what should you message them about?
Its not about what you should talk about but how you talk about something

You need to be playful, think of a neg its not being mean to them but playful banter. You can talk about anything or nothing.
Author:  Recast [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:02 am ]
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You are trying too hard to get a response, they need to prove to you why you should get to know them. You do this by throwing in negs and of course and DHVs. Never apologize in online chat, and also never play yourself down "I am a douche bag at times" these are both DLVs. You also have to remember that a girl likes someone that disagrees with them, but not so much that you force your opinion upon them. If you get an angry response don't try to change the subject give them a neg like "me and you, we could never get married".

Every conversation that you posted sounds like an argument, avoid this to stop from building a negative tone for the rest of the conversation. Your negs have to be more playful in order for them to be negs. Also don't reply to fast to the messages and ensure your spelling is correct, since this is chat the women determines her first impression of you based upon your spelling and eagerness to reply. When typing use commas it creates breaks in the sentence keeping her attention, just like pauses in speech. Try these suggestions and I am sure you will do better.
Author:  BMaster [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:40 am ]
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Never criticize a girl about how their living their life, and it also seems like your talking down to her. Telling her that she hasn't truly experienced life was a bad idea.
Quote:
HB7:oh smart one aren't you!
i didn't say all i said almost all.
That would have been a good time to make a sarcastic remark about how smart you are because the conversation turned very serious right after she said that and it just went downhill from there basically. You will get it eventually...hopefully.
Author:  Jer585 [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:03 am ]
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You werent being cocky or funny you were lecturing.. there is a difference
Author:  Ziffer [ Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:46 pm ]
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Thanks for the advice. I took it into account, and I have made a lot of progress in my online sarging.
Author:  ItsAlwaysOn [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:24 am ]
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AFC Ziffer-

I think you're on the right track. You just need to make a few slight adjustments.

First of all, don't think that you can't challenge girls on stuff that they put in their profile. You certainly can. As a matter of fact, that's probably how I open girls the most online. The problem is that you need to be playful and fun but instead you're coming off as argumentative and aggressive. Maybe that's not how you intended it, but that's how I read it, and that's definitely how the two girls in the example read it too.

Take number 1 for example. Instead of what you wrote, send her a funny, playful opening message. Then, at the end, throw in something like:

"Normally I would never talk to a girl that loves Andrew VanWyngarden, but I was hoping that you might be cool despite that. :P"

This really works well if they have something that they like in their profile that's extremely silly like KNOTB or Saved By the Bell or something.

Gentle teasing and playfulness is where it's at.
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