PUA Forum :: Best opener for young girls

@jurupa: I know it anyway and about the US-laws in having or not having sex with youngsters, too. In my opinion the "sex-laws" in US are somehow ridiculous, no one can stop someone in having sexual intercourse with someone by law, the catholic church has to give it up or churches in common have to give it up to give advice to someone in the how-to's of having sex according to their believes, and the US law can't forbid it too that a 45 year old man doesn't have sex with an 16 year old girl. Beside all the stupid and/or pornographic fantasies in this or such or similar cases it was always ridiculous to forbid having sex with younger or older persons.

You can give advices, yes; but only emotional disturbed people need laws who describe more or less exactly how and with whom the sexual "stuff" should/will work or will not work out.

The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex, the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner.

This is one of the facts, too why this forum here is necessary: showing people how to communicate their emotions and feelings and how to get closer to each other.

The truth is that 60% of human behavior consist of sexuality, the rest, 40% is there to survive (e.g.: getting involved into community, having a job, being successful in it, earning money).

The better children or youngsters are informed about all the emotional and technical stuff in having sexual intercourse the less it will come to child- or sexual abuse or harassment.
To show a child/youngster what sex is and explain more and closer the emotional stuff is not illegal and amoral - but to force someone for having sex THAT is amoral and illegal.
Anyway you can't forbid it by law but you can forbid it by showing the people that everyone is a free being with free choice for the kind of life he/she likes to live.
Sometimes I think people forgot about it that they are free in will, force, power and enjoying life.

Due to my experience with youngsters and children, I worked with them a lot, their sexuality has the same quality and quantity as the sexuality of adults but it is still different but making secrets about it or saying them to don't talk about it will open all doors to abuse and/or harassment, showing them that they are allowed to talk about everything they want will disable negative experiences with sexuality.

But this goes far beyond the topic of the post here. (:

Author:	davidjo [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:11 am ]
Post subject:	Best opener for young girls
I been doing this online dating for like 5 weeks.... I Just broke up from my girl and I forgot everything so be careful guys.. Well any way I want to know what has been working for the young guys online.... What I do is try to create a conversation from there about me section.. or i try the opinion opener but not much luck... the one thats seems to work for me is I guess we are meant to be because of x and y...I guess we are soulmates... I got two numbers..from it

Author:	luthor [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:15 am ]
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Maybe you should try a gay website if youre looking for young guys

Author:	davidjo [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:22 am ]
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oh no i am not gay at all ...I just want to know what works better on young girls...i tried a few of the stuff here but it is not working so well..

Author:	luthor [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:32 am ]
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Yeah I know, I was just joking with you budd, it was just the way it was worded. There's a few good threads in here about how to pimp your profile and messages and a lot is just trial and error and it's a number game. Just dont get too disheartened along the way. Online game is the hardest and the easiest at the same time if that makes sense!

Author:	davidjo [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:06 am ]
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oh thanks...well i just hit up this HB9 and i send her this but i dont know what else to say... ME-I guess we are meant to be You seem like a really easy person to talk to so let me level with you. I think you are polite, have a big heart, and are very attractive! I'd really like the opportunity to take you out for some coffee with conversation or dinner sometime. =) I just have this feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you better. Her-Well thank u and well see ....what do you suggest thanks

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Author:	Faust23 [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:30 am ]
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Quote: oh thanks...well i just hit up this HB9 and i send her this but i dont know what else to say... ME-I guess we are meant to be You seem like a really easy person to talk to so let me level with you. I think you are polite, have a big heart, and are very attractive! I'd really like the opportunity to take you out for some coffee with conversation or dinner sometime. =) I just have this feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you better. Her-Well thank u and well see ....what do you suggest thanks LOL. Very original, I actually took that one but I re-worked it. 1.I took out the first sentence it didn't fit my frame. So I usually start with I came across your profile, and (random comment on her profile). 2.I took out polite I am 23 how many 23yr old guys use polite as a compliment, instead I use the word cool. Big heart, who says that Attractive, don't compliment her looks are you serious. 3.Next sentence is so wuss, don't say you would like. Say your gonna take her out. Coffee with conversation, do you honestly say that? No use your own words but I do say coffee or maybe get some drinks instead. 4.I just have this feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you better Ok I love this line its gold. Anyways guy it takes 1 minute to change it and insert something that shows you read her profile. Trust me they will apprciate it. Jan. 28, 2011 – 4:31pm They don't know any better Guys in genreal are disappointing, add the internet and now you have problems. Hopefully I can make up for the fail. So like I came across your profile you look very cool, and intresting(love how you dress and the hair)! I'd really like to meet you for some drinks or coffee sometime. =) I just have a good feeling that you're a great person and I'd like to get to know you. Message me back here or if you want you can send me a text. 555-3434 Eric hey id love too my cell is 555-1212, and i appreciate how u actually took the time to write me instead of like all these other douchbags who just talk gross.

Author:	Lanthanaël [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:31 am ]
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What is a young girl for you? Which age? 16? 23? 26? And don't be to shy to interact with teenagers. They do like sex the same way adults do, and if you have ever heard that teenagers like to talk about sex and having sex like adults are doing it you will not believe it. I do really hope no one really is thinking that sexuality pops suddenly out at the age of eighteen!

Author:	jurupa [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:09 am ]
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Quote: What is a young girl for you? Which age? 16? 23? 26? Was going to ask the same thing. Quote: And don't be to shy to interact with teenagers. They do like sex the same way adults do, and if you have ever heard that teenagers like to talk about sex and having sex like adults are doing it you will not believe it. I do really hope no one really is thinking that sexuality pops suddenly out at the age of eighteen! I be careful talking to anyone under the age of 18, that is unless your are 17 and younger. Even then I will be careful as US age of consent varies from state to state depending on age.

Author:	Lanthanaël [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:55 pm ]
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@jurupa: I know it anyway and about the US-laws in having or not having sex with youngsters, too. In my opinion the "sex-laws" in US are somehow ridiculous, no one can stop someone in having sexual intercourse with someone by law, the catholic church has to give it up or churches in common have to give it up to give advice to someone in the how-to's of having sex according to their believes, and the US law can't forbid it too that a 45 year old man doesn't have sex with an 16 year old girl. Beside all the stupid and/or pornographic fantasies in this or such or similar cases it was always ridiculous to forbid having sex with younger or older persons. You can give advices, yes; but only emotional disturbed people need laws who describe more or less exactly how and with whom the sexual "stuff" should/will work or will not work out. The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex, the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner. This is one of the facts, too why this forum here is necessary: showing people how to communicate their emotions and feelings and how to get closer to each other. The truth is that 60% of human behavior consist of sexuality, the rest, 40% is there to survive (e.g.: getting involved into community, having a job, being successful in it, earning money). The better children or youngsters are informed about all the emotional and technical stuff in having sexual intercourse the less it will come to child- or sexual abuse or harassment. To show a child/youngster what sex is and explain more and closer the emotional stuff is not illegal and amoral - but to force someone for having sex THAT is amoral and illegal. Anyway you can't forbid it by law but you can forbid it by showing the people that everyone is a free being with free choice for the kind of life he/she likes to live. Sometimes I think people forgot about it that they are free in will, force, power and enjoying life. Due to my experience with youngsters and children, I worked with them a lot, their sexuality has the same quality and quantity as the sexuality of adults but it is still different but making secrets about it or saying them to don't talk about it will open all doors to abuse and/or harassment, showing them that they are allowed to talk about everything they want will disable negative experiences with sexuality. But this goes far beyond the topic of the post here. (:

Author:	jurupa [ Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:10 pm ]
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Quote: @jurupa: I know it anyway and about the US-laws in having or not having sex with youngsters, too. In my opinion the "sex-laws" in US are somehow ridiculous, no one can stop someone in having sexual intercourse with someone by law, the catholic church has to give it up or churches in common have to give it up to give advice to someone in the how-to's of having sex according to their believes, and the US law can't forbid it too that a 45 year old man doesn't have sex with an 16 year old girl. Beside all the stupid and/or pornographic fantasies in this or such or similar cases it was always ridiculous to forbid having sex with younger or older persons. You can give advices, yes; but only emotional disturbed people need laws who describe more or less exactly how and with whom the sexual "stuff" should/will work or will not work out. The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex, the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner. This is one of the facts, too why this forum here is necessary: showing people how to communicate their emotions and feelings and how to get closer to each other. The truth is that 60% of human behavior consist of sexuality, the rest, 40% is there to survive (e.g.: getting involved into community, having a job, being successful in it, earning money). The better children or youngsters are informed about all the emotional and technical stuff in having sexual intercourse the less it will come to child- or sexual abuse or harassment. To show a child/youngster what sex is and explain more and closer the emotional stuff is not illegal and amoral - but to force someone for having sex THAT is amoral and illegal. Anyway you can't forbid it by law but you can forbid it by showing the people that everyone is a free being with free choice for the kind of life he/she likes to live. Sometimes I think people forgot about it that they are free in will, force, power and enjoying life. Due to my experience with youngsters and children, I worked with them a lot, their sexuality has the same quality and quantity as the sexuality of adults but it is still different but making secrets about it or saying them to don't talk about it will open all doors to abuse and/or harassment, showing them that they are allowed to talk about everything they want will disable negative experiences with sexuality. But this goes far beyond the topic of the post here. (: I agree that US sex laws are bit on the ridiculous side of things overall. And personally I would have no problem with lowering the age of consent to 16. Saying that US considers one of age 18 or older to be a legal adult and by law responsible to make adult decisions. Weather or not one is truly an adult at age 18 is another thing. But the line in the sand had to be drawn somewhere. I agree the law won't stop someone over the age of 18 sleeping with someone under 18, but the punishment for such a thing are high enough that it actually does deter people. As if you do sleep with someone under the age of consent you go to jail for X amount of years and must register as a sex offender which stays for you for life and that is public record. Quote: The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex, The problem is this does not hold true for all of the US. There are still schools that only teach absence and nothing else. So teens are not taught about condoms, STD's etc but that they should wait until marriage (as you may have guess the southern states primary teach this). So in turn this only makes teens more curious to have sex, quite counter productive I say. Quote: the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner. Can you really teach such a thing? I think this is one of the things in life you learn on your own and not in a classroom as I don't think it can be taught in the classroom. Didn't mean to derail the topic, just wanted to reply what you said Lanth.

Author:	davidjo [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:39 am ]
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Thanks for the help... well girls age from 18 to 20... Yeah i stay away from 17 and under I dont want any problems... How would be a good a way to approach a chick from 18 to 21.... I have problems keeping the conversations and getting the number

Author:	Lanthanaël [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:12 am ]
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@davidjo: Make some jokes, be funny, don't be too serious to them and most of all, take it easy and everything with ease but show them that you can handle and figure out every situation, take them serious because they are new to the "world of adults" and show them your type of world. To approach them you'll need something creative, and with a smile; and don't be to much show off.

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