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| Author: | Unknown001 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Critiuqe needed on failed online appraoch |
Here is what happened: I commented on a friend's profile (Liz) via FB and one of her friends saw my response. She told my friend, Liz, she liked and Liz sent me a message via IM lettin me know that she (Deny) was 'crushing on me'. I gave Liz's friend (Deny) a poke and she poked back. i couldnt send her a message so i added her. i was ganna open with the Facebook Poke Method (kudos to Whoopie) but instead of sending her a private message i instead messaged her via FB chat when she was online. Here is was took place: Me Hey you know its not safe to poke strangers! I guess your parents never taught you that! =) 3:36pm Denise hah, i was trying to think of something witty to write back but i suck lol 3:37pm Me lol oh wow fail! you get points for trying though =D 3:39pm Me i dig you default pic... i believe i have never seen a pink room before 3:40pm Denise sorry, im talking to my friend about horrible movies. Yeah? it used to be purple but i love the pink :]:] 3:42pm Denise how long did it take you to prepare for the marathon? i want to do the couch-to-5k plan 3:43pmMe how did you know i did a marathon? 3:43pm Denise your pictures lol its not a hard puzzle to put together lol 3:43pm Me lol =P training (ie. training was easy) is easy preparing yourself is the hard part for i ran for 3 miles everyday 5 days a week 3:45pm Denise jesus, you started with 3 miles? 3:45pm Me the other two was cardio and weights lol! hellz yeah and i still got my as handed to me by 12 year olds on race day it was kinda funny really one of the little kids was teasing me about beating me 3:48pm Denise haha, im going to try completing the 5k plan. i want to start playing soccer again that was the best thing 3:50pm Me 5k is three miles i think there is a 5k happening this Oct how wow you use to play soccer aye thats pretty cool 3:50pm Denise oct? maybe ill be ready by then -- probably not lol i start on monday yeah soccer, i dont know any one who plays otherwise i would just go to the park 3:52pm Me i was raised as a hockey kid growing up dont follow soccer much did watch the fifa though 3:53pm Denise my brother used to play street hockey but never on the ice no, i didnt watch the cup... im more of a superbowl type of person lol 3:55pm Me you still do sports? 3:56pm Denise nah, i just stick to the gym i want to get back into soccer or flag football - that was really fun 4:08pm Me hmm i think id make a good wider receiver i think im to scrawny for any other position 4:09pm Denise are you tall? well you neecd to be tall and scrawny lol 4:10pm Me i can be a coach.... just sit on the side lines do nothing and yell colors and numbers Blue52! lol 4:20pm (end of convo) Gentlemen i am open to all forms of criticism (didnt dhv, no cocky funny, etc etc). Please give me your most honest responses. I wont take it personal but all use the advice given constructively. Thanks guys! |
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| Author: | Dr. Beat [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:41 pm ] |
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It was a fine chat. There are some really PUA kind of things you may have done wrong, but if you are genuinely interested in what you talked about, then you did the right thing. I think that if you are romantically interested in her, then you should have closed with a number or a date. |
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| Author: | Unknown001 [ Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:54 am ] |
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Fellow PUAs. One of the reasons i hate online gaming is because there is no face to face interaction, no kino tests, no way to smoothly DHVing without typing alot, etc but whatever online sarging is still part of the game. I have had at least three convos with Deni (my target) online since the first post on this topic. I guess her shyness got the better of her the first convo we had. That should have been enough reason to be more talkative (type-ative to be correct) but online sarging isnt my thing. During the convo she says she doesnt have a phone which to most would sound like rejection but not to me. This is not the first time i have had targets turn me down to only give me another way to contact them (FB, e-mail, etc). I got a 'date' close. Here is how the following went. Me hey how was work? 1:09am Deni hey exhausting 1:11am Me i saw the picture you posted bout the car that crashed into your house. what happened? 1:11am Deni idk some guys foot must have slipped and he destroyed the side of our house messed up our AC unit like the car devoured it and our main water pipe burst 1:12am Me oh wow! thats terrible! will you guys be suing? 1:13am Deni no we arent trouble makers i was laughing so much cause it was just like "something like this would happen to my family" but their insurance is going to cover everything and were supposed to get someone here tmrw 1:15am Me laughing oh wow 1:16am Deni yeah it just unusual it was* 1:16am Me well as long as you do get reinversed for something thats what matters i think you handled it the best way buy laughing by* 1:18am Me its been a weird weekend for everyone i know 1:18am Deni lol 1:18am Me probably some stars miss aligned or something 1:19am Deni i mean yeah its been a weird week 1:20am Me i know what you mean there was this old cuban dude who wanted to fight me over certain miss interpretations yesterday he had a white beard and he was fully bald, he was wearing some white muscle t shirt 1:21am Deni o_o 1:22am Me when he walked into my store i said "oh christ its popi the salor man" he didnt take that too well 1:22am Deni well, id punch you too or want to punch you lol 1:23am Me we'll you shouldnt be bald then or at least wear a shirt thats out of you're age range =D=D 1:25am Deni lol, well... if he feels confident... when you see a big girl with her tub out, im sure you dont say, "its a fucking muffin!" lol ;p 1:25amMe jeez! of coarse not... she would probably eat me if i do =)=) 1:27am Deni haha so mean 1:29amMe there is a mini frog orchestra outside my room it seems so peaceful coming from the garden 1:29am Deni you know at like 4/5 the roosters start doing their wake up calls its so nice to me o_o 1:31am Me rooster are the complete opposite of fogs lady! 1:31am Deni lmao we dont have that but we have a crazy cat lady next door 1:32am Me ah those are always the worst does she leave cans of at food lating around? laying* i couldnt stand it 1:32am Deni no she never leaves her house lol shes kinda scared i mean sorry im watching a tv show i mean kinda weird 1:35am Me i know i should be asleep by now my friends called me up to go biking with them up and down Key Biscayne ... unfortunately for me their early birds 1:40am Deni aw i would totally wake up to go biking early 1:41am Me oh by the way i was ganna ask 1:41amDenise ask away? 1:43amDenise hm> ?* 1:44am Me im goin titusville this thursday, dont know when ill be back. point is have nothing to do till then. would you like to met up for coffee with me on tuesday 1:46amDenise yeah, i'd totally be down im really shy though like really really shy 1:46am Me awesome! i talk a lot! you and me well complement each other very nicely =)=) will* i can only grantee nothing but good conversation 1:48am Deni lol i can guarantee a few words ;p 1:51amMe awesome, so its settled then! give me your number and ill give you a text 1:52am Deni oh, yeah... this is going to be difficult. i dont own a phone, its just a personal choice. I dont like having one but recently im getting one friday because i need one recently my job is needing me more so* 1:55am Me thats fine then. ill just send you the where/when over FB then 1:55am Deni you know, you remind me of joseph levitt 1:55am Me who? wait dont tell me i googled it all ready 1:56am Deni http://images.allocine.fr/r_760_x/media ... 191419.jpg lol its just the hair 1:57am Me i guess i w0ould have done better in 10 Things I Hate About You though 1:58am Deni LOL hes super cute now 1:59amMe my sis loved that movie 1:59am Deni i did too when i first saw it 2:00am Me most of my memories of her as a youth included that movie 2:01am Deni you need to watch y tu mama tambien my nose is so stuffy hot air is running through my house 2:02am Me i was it, or i think i saw the cover at it at blockbuster saw8 sawfd* grrrr saw* 2:03am Deni its my favorite movie i have a tattoo from it 2:03am Me oh wow have any pics of it? 2:04am Deni my tattoo? 2:04am Me yeah ive been dying to get tatted 2:04am Deni its not anything amazing its a thunderbolt the guys had in the movie both guys i got it in the same place they had it i have a lot of tattoos 2:05am Me i just wanna get one 2:06am Deni http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/xxxxx (pic of her tat) 2:06am Me every one has ink know im feeling left out =(=( 2:07am Me was it taken the same day you had the bolt done? 2:07amDenise mhmm 2:07am Me i dig it 2:07am Denise http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/xxxxxx (pic of her tat) that uh want to see the rest? 2:08am Me holy fuck on your lip! and you... wear glasses? 2:08am Deni yeah? lmao 2:08am Me =D=D interesting! are your lenses progressive? 2:09am Deni since 3rd grade! wut lol 2:09a mMe its so weird my mom tells me know can well what type of lenses by the way they act/ things they doo and yeah def id love to see the rest but not now though i gatta go 2:10am Deni lol kk good night :> 2:11am Me ill message you the where/when tomorrow over FB hopefully if my friends dont tire me out ill talk to you later =)=) (end of covo) To those practicing or chick surfing online take note of the details. her IOIs- she showed me her tats and compared me to joseph levitt. My DHVs- the popi story (though it wasnt ment to be a DHV story, i introduced it to create a playful effect). One thing i noticed that has really helped me out online and in field is this: When you approach a set, what ever you do talk about what [b]you[/b] wanna talk about, not vice versa. In other words, bring her into your world. Lastly, always have some DHV pics of yourself on your FB account. Thats how Deni found me; i got a pic of myself running a 5k. Ill keep you guys posted if get a date with her (id call it a day 2 but we have never met up in person).Cheers! |
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| Author: | openMinded [ Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:06 pm ] |
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I think your conversation with her is a little dulled well atleaste from a third person's perspective. It also looked as though you guys were simply just saying "Hi, my name is Bob." She replies "Hi, my name is Susan" etc. Do you know what I mean? Like the feeling wasn't really there? In other words, dry would describe what I mean. You could intentionally pause sometimes in the conversation to create tension. Tension is at least better than a dry conversation, because it has impact. It looks as though you were replying too fast to what she says which is good but it is not really helping the quality of the conversation. Another main reason the conversation is not going as smoothly as it should be is because a poor first impression was created. You teased her with a conversation opener, and she didn't really add any spice to it. But other than this, i think a lot of rapport is being made with her. n the conversation is really cute. I'm not really an expert, but I hope this sort of helped |
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| Author: | Unknown001 [ Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:25 pm ] |
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Thanks openMinded! Online sarging is kinda new for me but deffinatly, thank you for the critique! By the way, was your critique for both convos i posted or just the first convo i posted? |
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| Author: | openMinded [ Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:26 pm ] |
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Np Corzocl. The first convo started off a bit dry, then towards the second convo it got more interesting and more rapport were being made. I also noticed a lot of blocking in the conversation: " Poor conversationalists do not welcome new offers into their conversation. Instead, they choose to listen to what some says and then talk about their own idea. This is called blocking. For example, Bill could mention that he visited the zoo to see the monkeys, and his friend Ted might pleasantly nod …then change the subject to talk about a place he recently visited: Bill: "…Last Saturday I went to see the new monkey enclosure at the zoo!" Ted: "Oh really? I spent last weekend visiting my parents…" Instead of talking about Bill or the zoo trip, Ted talks about himself and so flow will be lost from the conversation. The blocking of offers in this way causes conversations to become less spirited and eventually dry up because 77 How To Talk To Anybody Without Fear Of Rejection 21 Steps To Conversational Mastery www.YourCharismaCoach.com © Copyright, Marcus Oakey, 2010 no growth is happening. It may look pleasant on the surface, and people may be nodding and smiling but when offers get rejected it causes the ‘flow’ of the conversation to stop moving forward and they gradually begin to fall apart." Also, Deny tends to say how she's watching tv or something which interrupts the flow of the conversation (poor on her part). |
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