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Author:  SandTiger™ [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Online/Text game is a lost cause.,
The one thing that I see the most is guys asking for help with their online game, or MSN game, or text game. The first response to all of these question is.

1. Why are you trying to seduce girls online.
2. Why are you trying to seduce girls online.
3. Why are you trying to seduce girls online.

Seriously? Why? Is it because you are too scared to talk to them in person? Is it because you don't go out a lot and once you get a girls MSN, you feel like this is your only shot at getting that special girl? Do you feel more comfortable online?

Seriously.... online and texting should only mainly be used to set up dates. I do sometimes text girls who I won't be able to see for a while, but this is far after the initial attraction phase. I never try to attract or seduce a girl through MSN or texting her. There's no point in doing that, especially since it's much easier to attract them once we are face to face talking in REAL LIFE.

So yeah, texting and online game has its benefits, but it's extremely dumb to think that it is beneficial to use it to create attraction in the women you want.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:05 pm ]
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Hey Sand Tiger,I so agee with you right now that its not a f'ing joke!

My game was gone down hill since trying sarging online!!

Im very fucking successful in person,street-pick up,wherever. My only downfall is online gaming.Not because I don't have the know-how.Because online gaming is a fucking waste of time.

I mean,its relevant to the time we're in so I tried it with little success.

Texting online(fb,msn,etc.) or via cell phone has the same results-they are indirect and non-committal. A woman put less worth on texts opposed to being on the phone.

Guys really miss the fucking ball on this one. Whether you meet a girl online or not,you must meet or talk in order to further the seduction. Some guys are under the illusion that they can totally meet girls online,text them online for 2 weeks.Then get their # and text her via phone then meet up(lol).Some guys don't want to talk at all-believing they can build comfor via text as you can verbally.

Great post Sand Tiger
Author:  IceMan-55403 [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:05 am ]
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Completely agree, total waste of time. I can even back it up with numbers. Now just think of when you go to the club and come out with a few numbers that night - maybe even more. Here is my stats from online over the last 4 months:

70 women contacted
102 total emails
13 numbers
1063 texts
4 dates
1 close

The worst part is they weren't even that hot and the pix made them appear a lot better than real life. My close was a chunker, I'm not gonna lie. Take any body size they list and add one to it - average = chubby, athletic = average, etc.

If you compare all the effort and energy I used to simply going out with your boys a few days a week or just going to Target and day gaming its such a waste of time.

As demonstrated by the amount of texts vs. dates it really doesnt matter. Set up the date very quickly or just move on!

I'm soon releasing my Online "seduction system:" How to score with so so POF chunkers.
Author:  LaVitaèBreve [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:41 am ]
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Why do I seduce women via the internet? For the same reason I seduce women offline, to fuck them or possibly attempt to date them. For most PUAs this is just ANOTHER way to game, not the only way.

The entire point of online dating is to filter out all the women you're not looking for. So you have an idea of what shes already all about without even really having to speak with her (provided she has a detailed profile). I imagine there are some guys out there who rely solely one the internet and there could be several reasons for that.

YES, there is alot of bullshit that comes with online game. Unattractive women putting fake pictures(or really old pics), hot women online just for the attention/ ego boost ,men posing as women, spam, no responses, etc.. Deal with it like you deal with anything offline.
Author:  SoZoS [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:20 am ]
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Why do I seduce women via the internet? For the same reason I seduce women offline, to fuck them or possibly attempt to date them. For most PUAs this is just ANOTHER way to game, not the only way.

The entire point of online dating is to filter out all the women you're not looking for. So you have an idea of what shes already all about without even really having to speak with her (provided she has a detailed profile). I imagine there are some guys out there who rely solely one the internet and there could be several reasons for that.

YES, there is alot of bullshit that comes with online game. Unattractive women putting fake pictures(or really old pics), hot women online just for the attention/ ego boost ,men posing as women, spam, no responses, etc.. Deal with it like you deal with anything offline.

I totally agree here. I've personally sent out only a few messages to girls on POF, it was maybe 3-4 and i got 2-3 replys, 1 "date" where she came straight over to my house(before we'd ever met! got much attraction?) and she was an 8! Probably one of the best body's i've ever seen, 10DD fit and fun. However I wasn't totally ready for the date(was only back in the game for a couple weeks from a LTR) so when she came over I didnt get the fclose but got close...

My conclusion, online gaming can work and help you improve some of your skills, but you cannot rely on it alone, it can just help fill in some of your spare time :)

-SoZoS
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:03 am ]
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La Vité Breve has a point but Ice Man brought the stats.

Just as Ice Man,I mentally calculate my stats and they're startling.

I lay more than 80% of the girls I meet on cold approaches,bars,etc. than online.

And the wicked irony is, I always sarge online(lol). Im signed up to like 6 dating/social sites.

I take a trip to the grocery and could #close 3 girls if its packed that day.

I've gotten about 5 #closes online in 1 day and none of them materialized into anything. Those #'s were throw away #'s as we'd say in the PU community.

Its really hard to convey things via text. When you meet a girl in person,she'd be way more open to meeting you for a date,day 2,etc. since she's already met you. Yall could even go on an instant date,"Hey lets get some coffee since we're already out.

Meeting a chicc online,its like playing catch the Taliban;elusive as hell. Why? Common sense,the online girls never met you. She doesn't feel comfort. She doesn't really know if that's a real poto of you(lol). Thus,she play more head games,flake more,be more scared,have more anxiety to meet opposed to a girl you'd #close in person.
Author:  Onoma [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:53 pm ]
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La Vité Breve has a point but Ice Man brought the stats.

Just as Ice Man,I mentally calculate my stats and they're startling.

I lay more than 80% of the girls I meet on cold approaches,bars,etc. than online.

And the wicked irony is, I always sarge online(lol). Im signed up to like 6 dating/social sites.

I take a trip to the grocery and could #close 3 girls if its packed that day.

I've gotten about 5 #closes online in 1 day and none of them materialized into anything. Those #'s were throw away #'s as we'd say in the PU community.

Its really hard to convey things via text. When you meet a girl in person,she'd be way more open to meeting you for a date,day 2,etc. since she's already met you. Yall could even go on an instant date,"Hey lets get some coffee since we're already out.

Meeting a chicc online,its like playing catch the Taliban;elusive as hell. Why? Common sense,the online girls never met you. She doesn't feel comfort. She doesn't really know if that's a real poto of you(lol). Thus,she play more head games,flake more,be more scared,have more anxiety to meet opposed to a girl you'd #close in person.
Maybe you're just not as good at online game?
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:13 pm ]
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Im not saying online game is hopeless.

Im saying that it makes the pick-up more complicated and you'd have to deal with more bullshit as lack of comfort.
Author:  Guidosaurus Wrecks [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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Meeting a chicc online,its like playing catch the Taliban;elusive as hell
I died in laughter at reading this one. Online/text game has its purpose but should never be the main focus of your game. It is a SUPPLEMENT not a REPLACEMENT. Take this example, after you have gamed a girl, you call her set up a day 2 for a time when you can mutually see each other, but that is a week from now. Texting/talking on the phone allows you to keep the initial attraction there so when you meet her for the day 2, hopefully you start right where you left off.

Its a tool in the shed of many for a PUA, and thats how you should treat it.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:22 pm ]
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LOL OK ..taliban rofl...

first of all....online game is just another aspect of gaming, guys who are good in real life but suck in online gaming often have a weakness in online game.
i online game woman í've met in real life before... it's not like i game a complete stranger online( i did it a few times tho).

I have 100% succes rate when gaming online, i always have a date or follow up date. Online gaming is easy because you don't have to think about your body language - you can easily verbally(text) make jokes all times.
it's indeed a supplement because , but do realise everyone is online these days and why not use that to our advantage.
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Im saying that it makes the pick-up more complicated and you'd have to deal with more bullshit as lack of comfort.
That's why i only use online game to setup dates or second dates with people i've met before so you already got some comfort going, im not always in the state / or in teh zone.

however..K-lock ... i have to say those are limiting beliefs, i've met girls who i never met before and i approached the date in a natural fashion which made it comfortable for us both. i had high succes rates - one advantage you have is talking online, your target text alot of subject to you online which you can use to your advantage.
Online gaming is PURE MANIPULATION ... natural often doesn't work here, if you are a manipulative freak like i am you should be fine.
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I've gotten about 5 #closes online in 1 day and none of them materialized into anything. Those #'s were throw away #'s
that is why we have sections about online gaming ;).. one thing i certainly agree with is Real life gaming ( sarging ) is way better for your inner game and so forth.
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Meeting a chicc online,its like playing catch the Taliban;elusive as hell.
true to some degree
Author:  jurupa [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:12 pm ]
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I have 100% succes rate when gaming online,
Bull shit. No one has 100% success rate.
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Online gaming is PURE MANIPULATION ... natural often doesn't work here, if you are a manipulative freak like i am you should be fine.
And real life game is not pure manipulation?
Author:  PUA_CHRIS [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:49 pm ]
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I would have to say online sarging is great if you know how to back it up in person...I sarge on pof.com, and that's only when i'm not sarging in person.

This is all just a big number game,, so why not improve your success rate by mackin on more bitches :-)
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:55 pm ]
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Dudes online is just a different way of doing things. We are in the i.t age. We do things differently now. When you sarge in person you can fail SAME ONLINE. You can get amazing results online. Combine both real and online. Every little helps.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:58 pm ]
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Lodewijkp has some points. Also Philosopher.

Online gaming should'nt be primary means of seduction.

Lodewijkp's point I super on the aspect of gaming a chick online who you alredy know. That's a different story and I'd encourage that sought of online game.

But to try gaming a total stranger is a headache due to lack of comfort.

As I stated earlier,online gaming is relevant to the times,so it'll be practical to jump in.

But some guys online sarge online!! They lack the confidence to do pick-up in person.

Im currently gaming an HB7.2 online[I've wrote a post or 2 on that particular sarge].

We've been chatting for like 3 weeks online(failed #close attempt by me)

I've gotten so used to gaming her online that Im actually nervous about meeting her.

Now if Im nervous,imagine her?

Point is,when you online game a girl,you run the risk of making her comfortable with just that-internet chats.

I suggested us meeting up. She asks me, "why? I like the online chats" so no real need to meet".
Author:  venom0088 [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:39 am ]
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Just saying, If you do master online game, its easy, it works, and has no strings attached. Online game should be one of the many tools you use . And just saying 80 percent lay report on girls you meet, is definately skewed. Sorry bro. Unless your meeting escorts haha
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