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| Author: | Tebu [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:55 pm ] |
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I wasn't sure if this had been mentioned before so I'm posting it. Seems because women are contacted so much from a wide range of men all asking similar questions/saying similar things. They can't remember them all right? Even if they do it won't be for long. So what I've done numerous times is send the same girl a message like at least six months after the first time you mess up and start over. None of them have ever remembered me! Sometimes I even get a date out of them after I failed so badly last time. Kind of like you get multiple shots. So if there's a girl that just stopped replying a few months back, message her again and have another go. Ups the numbers. I've even done this to one girl 5 times and each time I'm someone new. The last time I tried I got a date. Now if I mess up again I can't do this because of course she'll remember me. But try this. I'm sure they won't remember. On an unrelated note. I've had women that I find visually appealing and add. Then if they show too much interest in me I find flaws in them and stop talking to them. Is this normal? Then at a time when I'm desperate I contact them again and just can't talk right. Then end up being rejected. What a weird world. |
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| Author: | zenmonk [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:16 pm ] |
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totally true. i've done the same thing. many girls online have the attention span of a fruitfly, so you can start over even a couple months later....just be sure to use a different opener. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:46 pm ] |
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Quote: Seems because women are contacted so much from a wide range of men all asking similar questions/saying similar things. They can't remember them all right? Even if they do it won't be for long. So what I've done numerous times is send the same girl a message like at least six months after the first time you mess up and start over. None of them have ever remembered me! Sometimes I even get a date out of them after I failed so badly last time. Kind of like you get multiple shots. So if there's a girl that just stopped replying a few months back, message her again and have another go. Ups the numbers. I've even done this to one girl 5 times and each time I'm someone new. The last time I tried I got a date. Now if I mess up again I can't do this because of course she'll remember me. But try this. I'm sure they won't remember. What you are saying is partially true. If you strikeout with a girl online you can reopen her after waiting like 4 or so months. As by then they most probably forgotten about you. This especially holds true for the more physically attractive girls as they tend to get pounded with messages. As far as the date thing goes it would only work if you are not a rememberable guy.Quote: On an unrelated note. I've had women that I find visually appealing and add. Then if they show too much interest in me I find flaws in them and stop talking to them. Is this normal? Then at a time when I'm desperate I contact them again and just can't talk right. Then end up being rejected. What a weird world. I won't say its normal but I won't say its not normal.
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| Author: | Herne [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:08 pm ] |
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How are their memories in the real world--do they remember everything--particular case---used to fancy this one working in a book shop --we were both young--the interest was reciprocated but not to the same extent i think--neither made a move due to mutual shyness/social ackwardness---i moved away,went back 5 years later she was still there--i invited her to come coffee with me, she did ,she said she couldnt remember me from before but she was pleasant and comfortable around me---thing is I THINK SHE LIED about not remembering--true she would meet thousands of people passing when working shop--BUT if i guy was givintg attention and she KNEW he was interested--I recon SHE would always remember the face no matter how long had passed ,even if she couldnt remember the circumstances behind knowing the face--seing face again would trigger the memory of circumstances behind it---should it be put down to ASD-she couldnt admit remembering guy after 5 years so she fibbed |
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| Author: | Tebu [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:54 am ] |
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Quote: totally true. i've done the same thing. many girls online have the attention span of a fruitfly, so you can start over even a couple months later....just be sure to use a different opener.
Should we start posting examples of when we've done this? I was going to but I've deleted MySpace and moved to Facebook so I don't have all those messages.
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| Author: | Tebu [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I've noticed something... might be useful |
Quote: What you are saying is partially true. If you strikeout with a girl online you can reopen her after waiting like 4 or so months. As by then they most probably forgotten about you. This especially holds true for the more physically attractive girls as they tend to get pounded with messages. As far as the date thing goes it would only work if you are not a rememberable guy.
It's what I've noticed too (physically attractive girls) so I'll add that. (bold) I must have made a mistake.Quote: The last time I tried I got a date. Now if I mess up again I can't do this because of course she'll remember me. But try this. I'm sure they won't remember.
The underlined wasn't in relation to the previous statement but rather to the whole concept I'd proposed. But seems we all agree so I'm glad. Let's post examples.
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| Author: | Tebu [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:01 am ] |
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Quote: How are their memories in the real world--do they remember everything--particular case---used to fancy this one working in a book shop --we were both young--the interest was reciprocated but not to the same extent i think--neither made a move due to mutual shyness/social ackwardness---i moved away,went back 5 years later she was still there--i invited her to come coffee with me, she did ,she said she couldnt remember me from before but she was pleasant and comfortable around me---thing is I THINK SHE LIED about not remembering--true she would meet thousands of people passing when working shop--BUT if i guy was givintg attention and she KNEW he was interested--I recon SHE would always remember the face no matter how long had passed ,even if she couldnt remember the circumstances behind knowing the face--seing face again would trigger the memory of circumstances behind it---should it be put down to ASD-she couldnt admit remembering guy after 5 years so she fibbed
I'm with you on this one. She must have remembered you but didn't want it to seem as if it was important so she pretended she had forgotten.
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| Author: | Herne [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:59 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: How are their memories in the real world--do they remember everything--particular case---used to fancy this one working in a book shop --we were both young--the interest was reciprocated but not to the same extent i think--neither made a move due to mutual shyness/social ackwardness---i moved away,went back 5 years later she was still there--i invited her to come coffee with me, she did ,she said she couldnt remember me from before but she was pleasant and comfortable around me---thing is I THINK SHE LIED about not remembering--true she would meet thousands of people passing when working shop--BUT if i guy was givintg attention and she KNEW he was interested--I recon SHE would always remember the face no matter how long had passed ,even if she couldnt remember the circumstances behind knowing the face--seing face again would trigger the memory of circumstances behind it---should it be put down to ASD-she couldnt admit remembering guy after 5 years so she fibbed
I'm with you on this one. She must have remembered you but didn't want it to seem as if it was important so she pretended she had forgotten.Have you ever come across cases like this |
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| Author: | skypirate1965 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:17 am ] |
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Hi guys, I think I'll add to this topic. Let me explain first that I live in Switzerland and the online target pool is quite limited. I think I've good as exhausted the supply. So my opinion is that if your supply is limited then re-game. Obviously if your pool is BIG then try fresh girls. I would only try again for girls online I haven't met or spoke to for at least 3 months. Essentially the less successful I was the more likely I would re-game. I would never re-game someone I'd spoken to or met though. A few months ago I changed my online approach and I did contact several women I had many months earlier. They were surprisingly receptive. I almost arranged 'dates' with 2 of them and found one was a golddigger and the other was a very critical person so I never pursued them further. Related to this topic, what's your experience of girls who contact you after a fairly long period. I've had about 6 girls contact me 2 or 3 months after my initial email. Strangely they appear keen at first and then flake. What's with that? Oh I met one girl and she was a very closed person and couldn't get any decent conversation going with her at all. |
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| Author: | skypirate1965 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:49 am ] |
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"...she had a certain quality about her-a sort of gentel feminine quality about her or a sort of goodness about her that really made her stand out and be rememberable even though looks wise she would be about HB6--without any effort she stood out from the crowd in a kind of otherworldly way--strange" Ironically you're describing what men are doing through learning pick up...improving the inner self...improving how others perceive us. I've never met a girl like that in real life , however in the film 500 Days of Summer the main character is described as having the same sort of quality. Anyway actress Zooey Deschanel looks very cute in it. A good film to watch as it's an intelligent spin on traditional romantic comedies |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:02 am ] |
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Quote: How are their memories in the real world--do they remember everything--particular case---used to fancy this one working in a book shop --we were both young--the interest was reciprocated but not to the same extent i think--neither made a move due to mutual shyness/social ackwardness---i moved away,went back 5 years later she was still there--i invited her to come coffee with me, she did ,she said she couldnt remember me from before but she was pleasant and comfortable around me---thing is I THINK SHE LIED about not remembering--true she would meet thousands of people passing when working shop--BUT if i guy was givintg attention and she KNEW he was interested--I recon SHE would always remember the face no matter how long had passed ,even if she couldnt remember the circumstances behind knowing the face--seing face again would trigger the memory of circumstances behind it---should it be put down to ASD-she couldnt admit remembering guy after 5 years so she fibbed What makes you think she lied to you? Because it sounds like to me that you went on more than 5 dates with this girl. If she has gone out with other guys and guys she was more into she can very well forgotten about you. I highly doubt you remember every single girl you have went out with over the years. Like I said before unless you are a rememberable guy/girl the chances of a girl remembering you after some time has passed is going to be slim.
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| Author: | Herne [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:09 am ] |
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nah-youll always remember a face--unless they radically alter their appearance--say long black hair becoming short haired blond or fat girl losing mounds of weight---names get forgotten fairly quickly not faces though |
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| Author: | skypirate1965 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:25 pm ] |
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Quote: nah-youll always remember a face--unless they radically alter their appearance--say long black hair becoming short haired blond or fat girl losing mounds of weight---names get forgotten fairly quickly not faces though
It's a scientific phenomenon - the ability to distinguish faces- and to easily pick out those we know from a crowd. I'd probably have little problem recalling people I met once on dates 20 years ago. I think the brain goes into a recording mode-this girl could be important so remember everything! I saw a tv program once where this man had an accident and part of his facial memory was destroyed so he could not even recognise his wife's or daughters...scary
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| Author: | jurupa [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:18 am ] |
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Quote: nah-youll always remember a face--unless they radically alter their appearance--say long black hair becoming short haired blond or fat girl losing mounds of weight---names get forgotten fairly quickly not faces though Let me ask you this, did you remember everything about the girl you went out with? My guess is that you did not remember everything. It is also quite possible for people to totally forget people's faces over time as well. As the brain does "delete" old info all the time. Just try and remember when you were a kid growing up. You will only remember certain things but not everything.
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| Author: | skypirate1965 [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:16 pm ] |
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Very true. In my post I think I was referring more to an unconscious memory. If you're asked if you know a person from years ago and asked to describe them it may be very very hard. Get shown a couple hundred photos of people and I'm sure that persons photo will jump out at you. |
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