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Author:  Watermelon [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  It doesn't fu**ing work!!!
What the hell?
I did everything.
Put up good pictures of myself.
Write good text according to DHV.
I use negs and open with negs sometimes. Never show too much affection, try playing with the girl, but they just don't want to give phone numbers or talk much at all :(

My mate who has 2 shitty pictures and is less attractive than me already dated 2 hot girls from that site.

And he just talks the same casual crap and tells something that makes the girl go "WTF" for a moment so she gets interested.

I'm doing the same thing, but this one girl for example keeps talking but won't give her number no matter what funny and interesting ways I thought of getting it.

WHY????

Is there really something in my look that repels the girls ? ? ? ? I'm not ugly, I'm tall and very fit. I also act like alpha but this online sarging game just doesn't work for me! !
Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It doesn't fu**ing work!!!
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What the hell?
I did everything.
Put up good pictures of myself.
Write good text according to DHV.
I use negs and open with negs sometimes. Never show too much affection, try playing with the girl, but they just don't want to give phone numbers or talk much at all :(

My mate who has 2 shitty pictures and is less attractive than me already dated 2 hot girls from that site.

And he just talks the same casual crap and tells something that makes the girl go "WTF" for a moment so she gets interested.

I'm doing the same thing, but http://fastseduction.com/asf-faq.shtml#q001 for example keeps talking but won't give her number no matter what funny and interesting ways I thought of getting it.

WHY????

Is there really something in my look that repels the girls ? ? ? ? I'm not ugly, I'm tall and very fit. I also act like alpha but this online sarging game just doesn't work for me! !
It very well could be your use of negs. Negging online is something you have to be careful of. First of all, being that you are in good shape stop assuming that you have lower value in her eyes. Approach it from a perspective of equal value starting out.

Then with the negs and that sort of thing can be easily misinterpreted as being mean versus actually being playful. They can not see your body language or "how" you say things.

Another big problem some guys have is actually establishing a "connection" to the girl with comfort. Some guys just talk about some basic interests but don't ground themselves in her reality. Another words they don't demonstrate how they are alike in the ways each think, act, and have experienced life. This connection is a key part to online game.

Check this out as well -- top-10-common-mistakes-when-online-sarg ... ?highlight

Hope it helps.

Jon :)
Author:  Watermelon [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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It very well could be your use of negs. Negging online is something you have to be careful of. First of all, being that you are in good shape stop assuming that you have lower value in her eyes. Approach it from a perspective of equal value starting out.
I always consider myself of higher or sometimes in equal value in comparison with everyone else. So that shouldn't be a problem.

I try to be playful and don't get boring, but they just don't respond that well. I also don't talk about basic stuff. I ask stuff like "so, are you cool or what?" . Like making the girl qualify herself to me...and they do sometimes, but too rare.

I guess my pics are to blame or something.
Author:  Northernlion [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:03 pm ]
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I always consider myself of higher or sometimes in equal value in comparison with everyone else. So that shouldn't be a problem.

I try to be playful and don't get boring, but they just don't respond that well. I also don't talk about basic stuff. I ask stuff like "so, are you cool or what?" . Like making the girl qualify herself to me...and they do sometimes, but too rare.
Maybe they don't reply because you're coming across like an asshole -- and not a funny one. There's no BL or tonality online so it's easy to miscalibrate and end up pissing a girl off rather than grabbing her attention. Overnegging happens all the time online.
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I guess my pics are to blame or something.
I have shitty pictures and I still get a ton of girls responding to the messages I send out. You'd be wise to listen to JSmooth since he's an expert. The problem is in your approach most likely.

The idea that "IT DOESN'T WORK!!!" is BS. This is the same thing that AFCs think when they first discover pickup and we all know how that turned out.
Author:  Watermelon [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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Ok, sorry. I'll look into this a bit more...
Author:  h00ligan [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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how tall are you?

I'm about 5'6" list myself as 5'7" I think I got a pretty good profile and I don't neg online and have IMO some pretty good emails but it's like every girl wants some caucasian who is 5'10" to 8' :( but I keep on truckin til one bites.
Author:  Musterion [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:00 am ]
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Dude you are thinking too much. It isn't about how cool you look in your pics etc, it's all in how you are wording things. Now I don't know what you are saying but seriously, with online game 1 wrongly placed word can go from a playful neg to an insult. If you do neg try and put a ;) or :D or something at the end to show you are being playful, don't always assume she knows you are teasing.
Quite often you may be thinking you're throwing a harmless neg but she interprets it as an insult, as Nothernlion said overnegging happens allot online, and it's usually because you don't realise you are doing it.

It will work eventually, you just have to keep at it and eventually things will start to click and you'll be able to calibrate correctly etc. Having some DHV's in your profile is also a help but you can't rely solely on that and a few decent pictures.
Author:  Watermelon [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:37 am ]
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how tall are you?

I'm about 5'6" list myself as 5'7" I think I got a pretty good profile and I don't neg online and have IMO some pretty good emails but it's like every girl wants some caucasian who is 5'10" to 8' Sad but I keep on truckin til one bites.
I'm tall. Like 188 cm. I'm also very fit
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