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| Author: | RTTastic [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:06 am ] |
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I almost feel bad, because I tore this guy a new one tonight. But I just can't. Here is a beautiful example of doing EVERYTHING WRONG: First, this was over IM on a dating site. Guy:hi RTtastic:hi Guy:how are you RTTastic:bored Guy:how come RTTastic:cause I need more intellectual stimulation than "hi" Guy:well... tell me what topic intellectually stimulates you Guy:i can try RTTastic:see, if you were creative enough, and my type, you'd have come up with a better opener already donjuan0:if you can come to that conclusion...by one statement... what can i say Guy:maybe when i go to sleep tonight i may have a dream about you ? RTTastic:well, it's common. When meeting in the real (non digital) world a woman decides if she is interested in the first 30 seconds. On line, it happens within the first 3 lines. RTTastic:and that's the closest you'll ever get. lol especially bein in Barbados? Guy:on vacation RTTastic:and you change your entire location because of that? RTTastic:strange Guy:women usually say i should state my location Guy:cant please them ..lol RTTastic:well, the problem is that this site is meant to meet people. So weather you're on vacation or not, your location should indicate where you are looking to meet people..... Guy:good point Guy:thats true RTTastic:who shot your pictures? (here, I was trying to give him an opportunity to say something...anything interesting) Guy:ex (he failed) RTTastic:I'm out of things to say, your profile is just about as boring as your opening conversation skills. Guy:sorry u feel that way RTTastic:me too, because your pictures are good, and you seem to be intelligent...but if you just want to go to sleep and veg out when you get home, you wouldn't be able to keep up with me anyway Guy:if youre bored ...nice talking to you RTTastic:if you say so. So, comments, questions, want to tell me I'm a terrible person? Or give me a high 5? [/i] |
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| Author: | cn_bn [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:21 pm ] |
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Well he started with the typical AFC lines, i used to do that until recently. Never worked How should you be "approached" online? Using a tease opener or something similar like in person? |
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| Author: | RTTastic [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
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JUST like in person. You can go ahead and say hello or hi first...but it would be better to just dive right in. Open an IM with a question (and that question should not be.... a/s/l???). An E-mail is generally based on a profile or SOME sort of experience with the person, so really look at the proofile, and come up with interesting things to say about items she enjoys. I actually wrote a blog post about e-mailing on dating sites...maybe I should post that. I'm not really sure it's all right for this site, but ...it might work.... |
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| Author: | PanPan [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:08 pm ] |
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having been there last night during that cluster of an approach, I guess I should weigh in on it. My main complaint with it is this. If you are gonna email/IM someone, have something to say. Whether it be something that happened to you, a game to play, a question it doesn't matter. Just don't drop a "Hi" like she is gonna swoon after reading it! Women are people. You are people. Before you send an IM or email, ask yourself how you would feel and respond. Now, add in the fact that you get pestered by half-wits throughout your online and real life experiences and then re-evaluate your reaction. Yeah. Exactly. You need to bring at least a modicum of value to the table if she doesn't know you. DHV, entertain then move into qualifying. This was just a perfect example of what not to do. No value added, time seeped away. A total waste from the first 'H' he typed. And if you were wondering, yes I am a fan of IMing a girl like she already cares about what happened to you. Why wouldn't she? After all, you are the prize right? Panpan |
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| Author: | Guitarist84 [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:52 pm ] |
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Ok, I'll agree with you that the guy had weak ass game but, did you have to be such a bitch? Out of the thousands of girls I've talked to (in person, I think online game is lame) I've never gotten a bad result from just saying hi. You basically just ran him into the ground for being an AFC. Isn't being a PUA partly about helping guys like this get over their problems as opposed to bashing them into the ground? I don't know if you did this because you knew before hand that he was an AFC or if this is your real attitude when you meet guys like this (I'm assuming your female) but, you should probably try having a more positive attitude. All I see here is negativity and whether I have game or not, I wouldn't want to talk to you either. |
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| Author: | RTTastic [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:58 pm ] |
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Honestly, no, i'm not ALWAYS that mean. I was in a ....mood...last night though. And I was annoyed with the bombardment of idiocracy. Also, if he had actually made an effort, I would have warmed up. But he did nothing. I even gave him a bit of an opportunity to discuss something of interest (possibly to both), and he failed. Miserably. I have let some AFCs work up to the conversation part in the past, and probably will in the future, I was just not in the mood to take the time or effort to do it. I was even, partly, being a bitch because I wanted him to say "fuck this" and leave me alone. Didn't work. |
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| Author: | Guitarist84 [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:05 am ] |
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I know that being a girl you can be moody sometimes but, you should stop and think about what your saying when things like this happen. How are you gonna feel when you find out that the guy you rejected is really a great guy or hell, even a millionaire or something? It's never wise to shoot yourself in the foot ya know. |
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| Author: | RTTastic [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:35 am ] |
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Here's one I dealt with tonight. Another good example of bad game....but I was nicer this time. Guy:Hi RTTastic:hi Guy:How r u? RTTastic:bored. Guy:bored why? RTTastic:because there are a million things I SHOULD be doing, but I'm not. lol Guy:LOL. I hear you on that Guy:So what do you do for a living? RTTastic:lol apparently you haven't really looked THAT hard at my profile. Guy:waitressing and DJ stuff Guy:also photographer Guy:say I don't read profiles... RTTastic:Very good! lol RTTastic:so, if you already know that, what's the point in asking. Come up with something creative Guy:photographer interesting business RTTastic:fun, dosn't quite pay the bills Guy:awww sorry to hear that Guy:to many people in that business RTTastic:economy is shit. People are getting thier friends to do photos for free in this digital age Guy:economy might be in the shit, but this is the best time to start a company RTTastic:yeah, if you have the capital to do it. Which I do not. Guy:maybe or just the right connections for it RTTastic:again, something I lack. But I get work enough. RTTastic:A couple of weddings coming up, shooting promo shots for a comedian and a little bit of band work Guy:not to bad Guy:You'll probably see my company in the news in a few months RTTastic:computers? Guy:computers? RTTastic:your company...it deals with computers of some sort, I'm guessing Guy:I sold my business and started up another one Blah bliddy blah blah...he went on for 45 mintues about his company.... which I kind of made clear at the beginning would be something that I probably wouldn't use anyway. Guy:thanks for the input Guy:So what kind of photo work do you do? RTTastic:you forgot already?? after a 3 minute pause Guy:no RTTastic:then why did you ask? Guy:do you do b/w type of shots at all with your photos? Guy:do you bring any style that is special to you RTTastic:I convert some of my work to b&w, but not all, only if it will enhance the photo. RTTastic:as far as style....i don't think i adhere to a particular style. it varies day by day, or rather..image by image Guy:Do you do any macro shots? more conversation about photography...GOOD BOY! But really, i do this every day. I like photography, but there are much more interesting things to talk about....especially for you, i'm sure. Later he asked about why I'm single and what kinds of guys I'm looking for. I really WANTED to say "someone much more interesting than you!" but I didn't. we continued talking, he told me about a 32 year old woman he dated, since he's 21, obviously trying to make it look like it would be "nothin" if he dated a 27 year old. But the whole time, I was bored to TEARS!! i'd rather watch paint dry. But this is what I'm talking about. I had to go through an HOUR of bull crap to find out that i'm STILL BORED. |
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| Author: | RTTastic [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:37 am ] |
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Gitarist....I'm sure he's a great guy, and I really don't care if he's a millionaire. I'm still bored. Hell, the first guy was a doctor, so he probably is loaded. Though, i'm still not convinced, even, that the first guy's profile was even real. |
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| Author: | AaronW [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:23 am ] |
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Quote: I had to go through an HOUR of bull crap to find out that i'm STILL BORED.
whos fault is it that the conversation continued for that hour? Your on these boards, but yet you still want the man to take charge, even tho you know that most of the are going to be an AFC.i almost feel bad for the man, having the conversation go on this long and him thinking hes getting somewhere. |
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| Author: | smartass [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:56 pm ] |
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lol... I'm on PoF and I get a lot of stupid messages too... I can't put up with it! You know, the subject is: "hi" and the message is "how r u?" DELETED!! This one girl, I give her credit for trying, but I was so confused about what to say... Here it is: Quote: Subject: living life to the fullest? wondering...
If you say yes you sound like a social retard... if you say no you hit her for not being social in the real world. It's like, what was the point of saying this? This conversation is doomed!! Dooooomed!! So I hit her back with this:message: if online is the way to start my 2009 adventures, any thoughts? "Yes!! Especially if you like stalkers! I love my stalkers so much! They will buy you stuff and leave it at your door! Isn't that sweet?" lol! I try to be entertaining... |
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