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| Author: | Mithos [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Where did I go wrong in this convo |
Ok so i usually dont do Online gaming but what had happened was that my friend (lets call him mr. F) works at a supermarket and showed me pictures of this cashier that lives near my way and is a HB7. So in order to try and game her with out going out of my way to go to the supermarket I decided to get her screen name from him. So after this i though i have to come up with a reason for IMing her, so it wouldnt be weird and akward. So I came up with the story that my other friend (lets call him F2) was bragging about how he started a new trend which i was sceptical of and mr. F gave me her screen name to ask another employee myself. and heres how the convo went. Mithos: hey you -pokes- HB7:Hyey who's thiss lol Mithos: youre a quick one.(this was sarcasm cause it took her awhile to respond)do you know a MR.F that works at A&P? HB7:Lolol HB7:Yea HB7:But u I.med me from a diff sn last time Mithos: whoa whoa whoa, im not him. Im his friend Mithos: you work at A&P right? HB7:Mmhmm HB7:Who ru Mithos:His friend Neville, ever heard him mention me? HB7:Nah HB7:Lol Mithos:didnt think so =/ Mithos:Is it true F2 has everyone saying grapish over there HB7: What did he give umy sn HB7: Uhh HB7: Sry I'm confused Mithos: Ok ok we'll do this one step at a time =) Mithos: Hi my names neville HB7: Ok.. Mithos: Me a my friend MR.F were hanging out the other day with F2 and F2 was saying that he got everyone saying grapish at A&P HB7: I have four min left in my break HB7: So make it quik HB7: How did u get my sn? Mithos: I could not believe this shit so i asked him to gimme someones screen name so i could make sure HB7: Grapish HB7: What is that .. Mithos: cause F2 says alot of shit Mithos: grapes Mithos: he makes fun of his manager and the way he talks Mithos: never heard it? HB7: Wtf is grapish HB7: Lol HB7: Define that word Mithos: dude Mithos: i said its grapes (At this point in the convo im getting frustrated) HB7: Yea HB7: Ok I get it now lol HB7: Ur point? Mithos: ok you heard F2 saying that shit all the time havent you? HB7: Well HB7: Ya HB7: Often enough Mithos: tell me about it =/ Mithos: ok were getting somewhere Mithos: is it true he has the whole store saying that shit HB7: Umm HB7: How would I know HB7: I don't talk to the whole store Mithos: cause you work there? HB7: Lol HB7: I herd him say it HB7: What's the point of this coversation? Mithos: i wanna know is grapish the popular shit there Mithos: geez we went right back to square one now =/ HB7: Yea HB7: Idk HB7: This is a stupidcoversation HB7: Sorry to state it like that but yea HB7: It seems pretty pointless Mithos: hah your honest so its all good i suppose Mithos: i could explain why but i dont wanna go through another headache at that point I just closed the window cause i was really frustrated and she hasnt IMed me back yet (doubt she will). But i'd like to know where the hell did I go wrong to make the convo end up like this. |
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| Author: | Reminis [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:38 pm ] |
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Creepy Stalkerish Convo?  lol She doesn't know you and you are talking to her like you do, Asking her personal questions almost. You should of stayed on the intro(stating ur name, saying c/f Get her interested to talk to you.. Avoid the reason that u messaged her for now). my .02cents |
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| Author: | Mithos [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:29 pm ] |
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Quote: Creepy Stalkerish Convo?
I didnt think that the questions were all that personal(But that must be cause im a impersonal person). But i remember reading the key to attracting girls quickly is to make them feel like theyve known you longer than they have.. but i guess I started doing this too early prehaps? lol She doesn't know you and you are talking to her like you do, Asking her personal questions almost. You should of stayed on the intro(stating ur name, saying c/f Get her interested to talk to you.. Avoid the reason that u messaged her for now). my .02cents Any who she IMed me back asking me to explain so Im gonna try not to mess it up. |
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| Author: | Reminis [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:02 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Creepy Stalkerish Convo?
I didnt think that the questions were all that personal(But that must be cause im a impersonal person). But i remember reading the key to attracting girls quickly is to make them feel like theyve known you longer than they have.. but i guess I started doing this too early prehaps? lol She doesn't know you and you are talking to her like you do, Asking her personal questions almost. You should of stayed on the intro(stating ur name, saying c/f Get her interested to talk to you.. Avoid the reason that u messaged her for now). my .02cents Any who she IMed me back asking me to explain so Im gonna try not to mess it up. |
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| Author: | revolver [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:02 pm ] |
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Everything went downhill from the moment you asked if your friend had ever mentioned you. She answered no, and the fact that he had never mentioned you can only be rationalized as you beeing a low status, low value person. After that she treated you accordingly. She even asked what was the point of the conversation. No offence man, but it was weak from the start. |
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| Author: | Mithos [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:01 am ] |
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Quote: Everything went downhill from the moment you asked if your friend had ever mentioned you. She answered no, and the fact that he had never mentioned you can only be rationalized as you beeing a low status, low value person.
I had a feeling, you have any good online openers?
After that she treated you accordingly. She even asked what was the point of the conversation. No offence man, but it was weak from the start. |
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| Author: | VSaon [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:23 am ] |
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Ok, I'm a student like everyone else but here goes The whole "grapish" thing was strange Scratch those first 8 messages and instead how about: "Hey, I'm F's (coolest) friend Neville. What's going on with this "grapish" thing???" If she knew, it could have been funny but she didn't so she would have said "huh?" Then it's on you to make it really funny and/or let it go & change the subject. She was confused and thrown off when she realized she didn't know who you were at the beginning. Like revolver said, you could've skipped the whole "has he ever mentioned me" Sounds needy. Hell, quit with the "yes" or "no" questions altogether. A yes or a no question doesn't get you anywhere. You want her to have to think about what to say otherwise she'll be bored from saying yes/no. "Whats up with...?" "What do yo think about...?" "Why...?" "How...?" OPEN ended questions are the only way to keep a conversation going. I think it was bad timing when you said "Ok ok, we'll do this one step at a time." By this point she was *frustrated* because: 1. She thought you were someone else and got confused 2. She didn't know what you were talking about 3. You weren't getting to the point quickly enough 4. She was at work and on a break. Not good if she thinks you're wasting her time. It's pretty easy to frustrate girls if you dwell on something random that they don't care about, know about, or you can't explain it fast & funny. Time to change the subject. "So, wait, are you the short brunette or the tall one?" or whatever act like you're not sure exactly who she is get her to explain it. Then get into actual "normal" conversation. But she was running out of time it sounds like, which was one last thing working against you. What you needed here was a Transition to something normal but you better make an amazing 4 mins of conversation to get anything out of this. Moral of the story is that she didn't know WTF you were talking about so you needed to explain it(quickly) and transition to talking about something else. Chicks hate being confused and even worse they don't like being negged or fucked with when they're already confused. And many of them are EASY to confuse. |
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| Author: | Mithos [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:22 pm ] |
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Trust me I know that it's weird, F2 is a super AFC. But I needed something to work with. But I agreewith what you said about the first 8 lines. I think I recovered well though. After she IMed me back she apologized and asked me to explain it to her. After that we talked and I found out she lives with her dad(her mom died) some supermarket drama, and random shit about her past. So I think it's safe to say were in the comfort stage now. But another question I have is if chicks don't ever IM you first does that mean there's not enough attraction? |
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