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Author:  operator [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:43 am ]
Post subject:  bad response to a great neg
Or at least, I thought it was a great neg. Judging by the reaction, it obviously wasn't.


the underlined is what she said.


AIM IM with crazyiris12/10/08 5:58 PM
hey there
hey
have you ever been to one of those bikini coffee stands?
hell no
haha
i ended up at one yesterday completely unknowingly
and i figured something out
I don't know if it holds true for all of those kind of stands, but for this one it does
or at least this one particular girl
they figure they can make coffee that tastes like burnt mud and people will still come because they're flaunting their goods
and apparently it's working for this stand.
i don't remember what i got, but i didnt even drink 2 sips of it
wow. what a great use of money
....(90's reference) NOT!
haha, you must be old. I don't even know what thats from

i'm 26thank you very much
o. fine. so you're not THAT old.
even google can't help me figure out what that line is from
this is where you say, "ok, I'll tell you. It's from ______."
how old are you?
47
no
not really
im 17
what???????
actually, I lied about both of those
i'm somewhere in between
what the hell?
aw, you're no fun.. you're supposed to guess
im 23
thats the truth
yeesh. too young
too young?
yeah right
i may only be 23, but i'm more mature and responsible than most people 5 years older than me
6:19 PM
you obviously didnt think i was too young when you put me on your buddy list
or maybe, you just thought i was too good looking to NOT put on your buddy list
i'm going to go with the latter
and i'm going to take your silence as agreement
I'm flattered that you think im so handsome
really
I do
but you're just a little too old for me
I like dating girls that are still in the prime of life
forget you
fuck you dude
you know, last time we talked, you thought i was funny
crazyiris has gone offline.


Now, I wasn't so much trying to game her as just pass the time. I definitely wasn't trying to insult her. Anyone have insight into why i got such a strong negative reaction?
Author:  sebaqe [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:00 am ]
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Well i'm no rAFC (aka, i'm still an AFC)
But i think you got it because you "talked" too much. Look at how much she's typing and how much you have in there. She was pretty cold from the beginning.

See I hate to do that to myself. If i'm chatting and i feel that kind of reaction, I just go straight for the heavyweight blows.

I don't think that bikini stand is that great of story either. In my eyes it demonstrates no value. and it takes 7 lines.
Author:  smartass [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:27 am ]
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"but you're just a little too old for me
I like dating girls that are still in the prime of life "

that would be the point you blew it.

If you hadn't said the second line, you probably would have been fine.
Author:  J_J_Okocha [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:34 am ]
Post subject: 
I do
but you're just a little too old for me
I like dating girls that are still in the prime of life

That was pretty cold blooded. women are sensitive about age, bad neg to use.
Author:  com.solo [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:28 am ]
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Jesus dude that was way too harsh.

That's not a neg, that's a fucking putdown. Insult, man. What the fuck.

Listen.

Suppose you're talking to a chick.

She says "You're too young for me. I don't date guys who aren't in middle school." that's just mean. It might be OK if you said it in person with the right frame (very playful), but not in text. You just feel rejected. Now, if you really want her, you might still go for her. But I assure you, hardly any woman REALLY wants an average guy. She has a lot to choose from. It's your goal to MAKE her really want you. Which you don't freaking do by cheaply insulting her the moment you meet her. What she said in my example wasn't a neg, it was a cheap insult. Which was what you used.

On the other hand, what if she said

"I don't normally date guys younger than me, I don't like teaching the ropes : )" then that's a playful neg. She's kinda flirting, but kinda putting you down slightly. That's how you should neg. It should make her laugh a little while also teasing slightly. A subtle putdown.

Furthermore, you're qualifying yourself. "Ah I'm more mature than most guys my age blabla." The hell you are. If you really are, she can tell. Imagine you were talking to a 40 yr old woman and you weren't too interested in you, and she said "Oh, but I'm way hotter than most women my age"... if she really is, it's obvious. Making statements about yourself shows insecurity. Don't do it.

Now if you'd played it cool, you'd have said something like "Ah well I normally date cougars [MILFs], so I guess you won't be quite so experienced.... do you make up for that with looks?"... now YOU'RE the one who's in control, and you subtly negged her, while also making her feel good.

Good luck dude.
Author:  com.solo [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:29 am ]
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Oh and finally. If you're new to the game (which you clearly are) what the FUCK are you doing sarging online.

Remember, she can't fuck you over the internet. You're going to have to meet her to fuck her. So practice until you're good at real interactions, then pick up girls.

Trust me, real life is a lot more fun than the internet. And you're going to need real life skills to get laid. So get the FUCK off MSN and go out and talk to some girls. It really isn't that hard.
Author:  operator [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:12 am ]
Post subject: 
thanks for the advice guys. I figured as much that I lost it right before she told me to fuck off.
Quote:
Oh and finally. If you're new to the game (which you clearly are) what the FUCK are you doing sarging online.
Like I said in my op, I was just trying to pass the time after work more than sarge a girl online. But you have gave some great advice com.solo. Thanks for taking the time to post. I'll keep that in mind what you said about qualifying myself.
Author:  Taurus24 [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:00 am ]
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im new to this website, but been in the game quite a wile and do well with cougars, or even older women for that matter... anyways you did put her down pretty bad and what i like to use when talking about age difference and she asks me... example...
cougar: how old are u? me:21 y? cougar: oh wow ur too young for me. (right there she already considered you) then most of the time i get something like i could be ur mother or i have a kid your age. me: no way! (making her feel younger) how old could u be? (then what ever age she is).. me: oh... ur not old enough.

they usually eat it up and u can continue from there... if she mentions she has a daughter your age, u could throw a little tease neg like "oh could i have ur daughters number?" but be very playful otherwise u will come off creepy. what ever u do do not try to act older than u are otherwise she will pick up on it, and stand with confidence because trust me they have a lot more experience than u do...

anyways good luck[/u]
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