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Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Russian girls...red flags?
I'm here in the US, but I seem to have spawned a little "pen-pal" who's a 29 year old divorced Russian hottie. We've been interchanging over email for a while now. We bumped into each other on Adult Friend Finder I *think*, not sure. She's been sending me pics and emails for a while...I've sent her pics and emails back. Her english isn't perfect, but man she writes some long letters...I'm enjoying the exchange with her. And unless all her pics are quite old, she's a blond-haired, green-eyed, hard-bodied, long-legged little hottie. She's sent me a phone number in her last email...I think I'll find the cheapest way to call Russia and have a chat.

So, has anyone in the US had any experiences hooking up with a Russian girl? (I know there's a story about Mystery and Style's trip to Russia and some of their shenanigans.) The reality is that flights between here and there really aren't very expensive (no more so than flying a few states away). I've never been to Russia nor trekked around the Moscow area...I could see some pretty good adventure happening there. The thought of maybe going there for a week has certainly entered my mind. Sounds quite...romantic?...to me to throw myself into a foreign country with a hot chick I barely know. 8) Not that I need to go all the way to Russia...the idea is just somewhat appealing though.

Don't know a whole lot about Russia's state at the moment. The Moscow area has a lot of crime as I understand it. I assume travel there and back is as safe as any other foreign country that's not at war. Any other thoughts?

Please post any experiences you may have had in Russia or with any Russian babes.

Gruuve
Author:  Macine [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:44 pm ]
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I was once married to a russian HB9. Met her when I was in Kyrgyzstan for work. Beautiful girls all over around there, but I don't gotta tell you guys that. Moscow is kinda expensive nowadays, but there is some crime, easily avoidable if you aren't too trusting and stay smart about it.

Well worth a week vacation there, even if you didn't have a HB to meet. You can easily pick up another one, girls will like to try thier english on you.
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:32 pm ]
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Yeah, I'd say she's an HB9! I've wondered about her motivations. A lot of "women" you meet on Adult Friend Finder tend to scam artists trying to get you to join some other paid site to see them or talk to them, etc. Some of these "women" probably aren't even women at all.

At first I thought she was just another scam artist, but she kept emailing me and telling me about herself and where she lived, and kept attaching pics, etc. I grew to see that at least she really was a female looking for a guy. :P

Then, knowing that, I again wonder what her motivations are. I've heard that many Russian women are looking for American husbands so they can gain citizenship to the US. I can't blame them at all. But, I've also told her that I'm already married, just in an open marriage. She didn't seem phased at all by that. So, maybe she really is just looking for companionship and good sex? :twisted:

Regardless, a trip to Moscow sounds like it would be a hoot.

Gruuve
Author:  Samm101 [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:39 am ]
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I would be cautious about her intentions. Firstly she could be looking to simply marry into US citizenship and secondly I read somewhere that something like 80% of private enterprise in Russia is influenced by the mafia so if you went over by yourself you could become a victim of something.

That being said I know an unbelievably hot girl from Russia studying at my uni. She sounds very similar to your stats except shes 19!! It sucks because I know she was into me but I had a gf and when I broke up with her(6 months later) she got a bf :(

You should ask her to take a holiday to the US.
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:31 pm ]
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Good points. Actually, I did ask her if she'd like to come here. I'd definitely pay for her flight, no prob. She only has access to email for a few hours a day, so our communications are kinda spread out over several days or so. I've got a mobile phone number for her (she's sharing a mobile phone with her neighbor), and we've talked for a few minutes. The verbal communication is slow, her English isn't great but it's good enough. A call there is $7/minute though...I've got to find a better temp carrier to use to call there...there's a few that are pennies a minute, but I couldn't get one I tried to dial the mobile number.

Yeah, I've read that there's a lot of crime in Russia. I've also read there are lots of STD's as well. She's a dentist, so I'd assume she's reasonably well educated in health issues, including STD/STI's...but that's something I want to talk to her about and try to determine.

Gruuve
Author:  Joshua420 [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:34 pm ]
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I couldn't imagine a more sketchy situation to hook up w/ a chick.
Should u hook up w/ her, post here b4 u go, and if we dont hear from ya in a couple days we'll alert the authorities. :)

Goold luck out there bro.. be safe
Author:  Hawkin [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:04 pm ]
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My gf is russian - living in russia... and I'll be taking a flight to her in january :D

You can try SPAM to phone her, it's only 2 cents to russia, and 6 cents to russia mobile per minute.
She has some time every day to mail and write long letters? Then let her get a headset and talk over SPAM/teamspeak/any messenger :)

Unfortunately trips from Europe to Russia are damn ass expensive and you need a visa to enter. Don't know how it is for the US, but I'd have her fly to me if her parents allowed it...
  • No visa needed
  • Trips from Russia are cheaper
  • Less crime in my country
  • Warmer in my country of course
  • No parents...
  • And so on... :D
Only positive things I see are to see another country, her family, her friends... that's it! Oh and that everything is cheaper there (not true for places like moscow though ;))

I don't know how expensive it is for americans to travel there, but for me it would be a waste of 650€ and more just for getting laid :D But I'm into her so yeah...
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:13 am ]
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Hey Hawkin...thanks for the post!

Actually, something about me throwing myself into foreign country to hang with a hot little "pen pal" who's been wet-dreaming about me seems...I dunno...dangerously romantic? 8) The thought sure is appealing to me...just being there in a quite exotic place and essentally at the mercy of some chick I hardly know gets me a little excited.

She's also expressed a desire to come visit me in the US. So, maybe I get her over here for a few days or a week to show her around and let her see that I'm trustworthy (and I definitely have told her I'm in an open marriage...it didn't seem to phase her at all.) l

Especially if flights here are cheaper than flights there, maybe it would be a great idea to just get her here in the US for a few days or a week.

I know there's plenty of fish in the sea (and plenty here in the US), but I think this is just so exotic that it's part of the appeal. :twisted:

On SPAM...yeah, I would actually just use Yahoo IM audio chat, but she doesn't have a PC at home, and uses the one at the office where she works to email me.

Gruuve
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:29 pm ]
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Ah! I just realized that Yahoo IM can call a landline or cel reasonably cheap. Looks like the rates from where I live to a Russian mobile phone are 5.3 cents/minute...that'll work. Plan to try to call the chicky-poo in just a little while.

And I think having her come here first is actually the best idea. That shows a pretty strong intention from her to take that step, her flight here should be cheaper than me going there (I plan to pay for the flight either way), it allows me to wisk her away to somewhere that is exotic for her (the US), and lead her into all sorts of mischief here. :wink: If that goes well, then I'll allow her to return the favor and wisk me off to her town and show me around.

If I went there first, I'm thinking it would be harder for me to be the alpha-male, lead her, and show her a good time...I don't know my way around, I don't know the customs, I don't speak the native language, etc...I'm kind of at her mercy, and that's probably not the best setup. If I bring her here where I'm comfortable and she's not, I can make her comfortable, and show her a time she'll never forget I think!

I know she's fantasizing about me...and I've told her that I'm in an open marriage, but some of her fantasizing involves very husband-like stuff...like "waking up beside you every day". How about every day for a week, baba? 8) Seriously, I don't want to mislead her or cause her any hurt, and she is just fantasizing. Should I remind her that I'm married, just as a safety precaution? I'd much rather not lay her than to lay her and cause her hurt because I didn't set the expectations correctly.

Gruuve
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:22 pm ]
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Aha! My hot little Russian pen-pal is a scam artist! One of the scams Russian girls run is to agree to come to the US for a visit, then ask you for money to pay for the trip, you send money, she disappears. She agree to come to the US for a visit, then told me how much it would cost and that she'd have to save until the Spring. I told her I'd buy the plane ticket and send it to her, and I'd give her cash to cover her Visa when she got here. No response.

Then I find her pics and profile on a "stop scammers" web-site. Yup, she was indeed working on a scam. She had been talking with me for over 2 months now...wow, what an effort to put into a scam! She was totally believeable too.

So, I'm not going to tell her that I know she's attempting to scam me. She's sent me so many pics that I know the pics really are her. I'm going to try to turn this around and at least get her to engage in some cyber-sex with me. :twisted: I want to create some emotional attachment, then tell her that I know she's a scam artist.

Gruuve...no more "Mr. Nice Guy".
Author:  smartass [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:31 am ]
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send her a picture of a fist with money and say that it can be hers if she flys over to see you... Behold the power of greed.....
Author:  expat_of_love [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:17 am ]
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send her a picture of a fist with money and say that it can be hers if she flys over to see you... Behold the power of greed.....
You boys are too cute. Too bad none of you will ever have the intelligence or drive to actually travel to the region with a decent understanding of the language. You might be very surprised to see what life would be like for you. As it stands, my American brothers in the region are made up of the following: Jesus Freaks, Mormon Missionaries, and black basketball players :lol: I do see more and more elderly American couples though.
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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Too bad none of you will ever have the intelligence or drive to actually travel to the region with a decent understanding of the language. You might be very surprised to see what life would be like for you. As it stands, my American brothers in the region are made up of the following: Jesus Freaks, Mormon Missionaries, and black basketball players :lol: I do see more and more elderly American couples though.
Actually, don't be so sure about that my friend. The thought of visiting Moscow is very appealing to me. I'd just like to have a few local ladies lined up to escort me around while I'm there. :wink: I've traveled all over the Carribean scuba diving and been to Germany and England on business, so don't assume I don't have enough intelligence to learn the language nor the drive to actually visit Russia.

Gruuve
Author:  Dr. Gruuve [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:39 am ]
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Interesting...my little Russia scammer girl-friend is still trying. I told her that I wouldn't send her cash, but I'd buy a plane ticket for her. She replied that she'd just use her savings to pay for the trip herself to take a vacation here. Hmmm. I then told her that if she shows up here under her own power that I will give her the cash to cover her trip.

I'd imagine she's trying to build my expectations up then suddenly ask for a little financial help at the last minute to scam some money out of me, but hell...let's see what happens. :D I don't usually toy with people in this way, but since she's a known scam artist, I don't feel any guilt about toying with her. :twisted: If she actually shows up here under her own power (and makes it a "good visit" if you follow me), I'll definitely eat my friggin' words (and that's probably not all :wink: ) and pay for her trip. What the hell...you only live once.

Since we've been emailing for a while, I'm putting a little extra work into building some emotional attachment and building a strong fantasy about her alleged visit. I've sent her pics of the circle of friends she'd be hanging out with, I've send her some teaseful and nude pics of me, and a couple erotic poems, etc. I'm trying to build a fantasy for her and create some emotional attachment. We'll see what happens. Regardless, I'm kinda getting a kick out of toying with the scammer.

Cheers,
Gruuve
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