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Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:01 am ]
Post subject:  New opener! Thoughts?
I'm still experimenting with it, so feel free to phrase it better. I'm great with mid game, it's just opening and attraction/connection I'm working on. So feel free to add to the opener and transition.

it's "X, You're such a jerk" or (like mystery) "Would you like to know why you suck?" Then, "Here I am, trying to figure out if you're interesting but you're too busy talking to corny guys, to find out, ha" Let's develop it.

I # closed :)
http://imgur.com/rppps3W
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Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
So far I've been able to rephrase it to, "X, would you like to know why you're a jerk! :P " Worked better so far. What do you guys think
Author:  GKS [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Good opener. I might give it a try since I've been too lazy to come up with a new one recently. Although I wouldn't spend as much time bantering as you did. I'd number close right after she said "Seems like you want trouble". Giving you 2 consecutive responses indicates her level of interest was high and she also provided you a wide range of things she loves to do. I'd pick one and challenge her at it then number close.

On the second thought, this opener is great to use as a re-opener when a girl hasn't responded to your first one despite it has been a few days since then.
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Agreed. I think sometimes it depends on the girl, some girls just want toy to close them earlier, some need more comfort to avoid flaking imo. I hope it works out for you, so far I've had good results, feel free to post your # closes with it. I'm really interested in developing what can happen after the transition.
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Closed again! :)

http://imgur.com/ZVvVgcD
http://imgur.com/0UJoLPg
http://imgur.com/JMz1791
http://imgur.com/301r9dO
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http://imgur.com/VAa9tIn

Do you guys think asking for a pic was a bit unnecessary?
Probably gonna' txt her in a day or two.
Author:  oceanx [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Tight online game, dude. :)
Author:  GKS [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:28 pm ]
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I ask for a pic if I'm the one giving them my number. That way I can test out their compliance.
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:38 pm ]
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Tight online game, dude. :)
Thanks man.
Author:  breedlove465 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
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Closed again! :)

http://imgur.com/ZVvVgcD
http://imgur.com/0UJoLPg
http://imgur.com/JMz1791
http://imgur.com/301r9dO
http://imgur.com/sd8oK4J
http://imgur.com/VAa9tIn

Do you guys think asking for a pic was a bit unnecessary?
Probably gonna' txt her in a day or two.
I've had a few times where I'll get a text out of the blue and can't remember the girl very well. So I always get a pic.

In person I love to use it to my advantage. When I get a girls number I'll pull her in close and take a selfie picture with us two, then I'll tell her to take one with hers and put it as my contact picture. I usually poke her as she goes to do it and tell her "hey don't give me that fake smile, I don't you ruining my picture, give me a nice big smile."

The idea behind it is two fold. One, it makes the whole even more fun and entertaining for her and I both. Two, when I text or call her, that picture of us having fun and smiling pops up, bringing up good memories, hopefully leading her to have positive reactions when I try to set up a meeting.
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Great, move man. A lot of people do similar stuff like that with their phone when getting a number but stuff like that will subconsciously create more connection...

Note: Also the transition, "Here I am, trying to figure out if you're interesting but you won't say, 'Hi ' first so I'm taking initiative. I'm X ;) " works. I'm going to add this as my online game journal and possibly keep posting my interactions. This by far has gotten me great results, and sets a great frame. I'll write up the routine soon.
Author:  oceanx [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:46 am ]
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"Here I am, trying to figure out if you're interesting but you won't say, 'Hi ' first so I'm taking initiative. I'm X ;) "
Great online opener.
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When I get a girls number I'll pull her in close and take a selfie picture with us two, then I'll tell her to take one with hers and put it as my contact picture.

when I text or call her, that picture of us having fun and smiling pops up, bringing up good memories, hopefully leading her to have positive reactions when I try to set up a meeting.
The RL opener selfie. Excellent stuff.
Author:  GKS [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Update: Sent out 20 opener - 1 replied back with "Sure" then no response after I used the second line, 1 replied with "I can only image some lame lines" (also did't work out) - no replies from the rest.

Overall, they're right. It does sound like a pickup line, maybe because girls in my town probably run into the similar Mystery "Do you know why you suck?" openers. Also might be because the opener doesn't really suit my personality or profile. I find flirty and funny one lined bantering works best for me.

For example, I have been using this one for a while and get really good result.
"[adj 1], [adj 2], [adj 3] (whatever vibe you get from her profile)... this might be too soon but let's flight Vegas and get married? Or if you're not that adventurous, at least take me out on a date so we can [insert something fun to do]? ;)"

If they say yes, I set a date immediately and number close. If they reply back with something fun or witty, I banter a bit then set a date. If they say no, then I move on. Yea I've been lazy. This one doesn't cost me a lot of time or energy :lol:
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
To each, his own. I guess it depends on what your profile says - hence how you're being perceived. I send it out quite a lot now and sort of have a full routine I use from open to to close, I'll post on here soon.

One line that comes to mind is: You're dangerous & cute, but seriously, you're too much. That works well for me to. Also priming/qualifying before I close, " You're X and X but what makes you fun to hang out with?" I use that almost every time.

Routine coming soon! Although guys, is it normal to send out a lot of messages say 30-40, get maybe 2-4 responses. And only half are interested, usually one you'll meet up with. If not, what's a good way to solve that《《《
Author:  GKS [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
That is a really low response rate 2-3 out of 30 messages is roughly only 10%. You want to pick an opener or method that yields about 70-80%. Or at least 50% is minimum. Otherwise you're wasting to much time and doesn't do it effectively. I sent out about 50 message a week and got about 25-30 replies. And out of those, usually around 10-15 will agree to meet up.

Also another thing I noticed is that all your close has been Asian. Is that what you prefer or you still have some intimidation going after white girls?
Author:  Pinkfloyd123 [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New opener! Thoughts?
Really, interesting stuff. Maybe I'm not being funny or flirty enough to hook them in. Why do you think my msgs/profile isn't getting as many dates/responses.


》》》I'm very confident, and do great with seducing them and being unique. But I think my actual structure of game is lacking. I don't want to make it a numbers game, I want a game plan. So I can at times be lost as to, what to say/what type of stuff I should say. It's difficult for me to be creative at this. If I could know how to respond to woman better, my game would improve. 《《《 Opinions welcome. If you have any links or demonstrations of it, that be great guys.

As for the Asian thing goes, I've never really had any intimidation towards white girls, I like all types. Just what I've been going after lately, I'd prefer European/white. But for some reason I seldom get msg's from those girls? I wonder if it's cause I'm Tan.
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