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Author:	TheYesMan [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Stuck... How can I close this one out?
Talking to an HB7 from my quiver and I did something I've never really done before - be honest. I've gotten really good responses so far but I'm having trouble thinking of a way to close. Any suggestions?: Me: I'm glad to see you have a good sense of humor. So, what are you looking for on here honestly? (GKS opener I really liked; very unassuming and straight forward) Her: Well you gotta be able to laugh at yourself and the world or life can get the best of you. As far as what im looking for...someone I vibe with well. With whom the conversation flows effortlessly. Anything more is a plus. Its my first time online dating and im just hoping that people are who they say they are and not some creeper....it is the interweb after all. Lol what are you looking for? Me: Yeah, but from what I've learned from my experience with online dating is that you can't lump everyone into the "creeper" category even though you're technically right about it being the interweb. You have to be willing to put yourself out there or else you won't get anything out of it. For me, attraction would be the first quality I'd look for but not purely physical. I'm also looking for someone who's at a similar point in their lives as I am and very motivated and goal driven. I find those qualities to be very attractive. Her: You do make a very good point. I mean we're relatively normal people so whats to say others are not. It is very important to be on the same page in any relationship and its something that is also very important to me. Relationships aren't only about attraction both mental and physical but really about timing. Being drivent is a must especially with the way the world is now. I am constantly working towards goals and setting newer and more challenging ones. When you stop challenging yourself you stagnate and when that happens you're not really living anymore. Seems like we value the same things.

Author:	GKS [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stuck... How can I close this one out?
Normally I would always keep the conversation short. Those lengthy heart spilled opinions should be saved for the real date, when you get the chance to kino while talking about emotional subjects. I would have personally made it a bit more fun rather than being all serious. But you did fine, she qualified herself and gave you an IOI at the end. Note she said she wants someone she can vibe with and she mentioned you guys share the same value. Use that! Twist her words and implant the idea that you're on the same vibe in her head. And further qualifying or escalate would do the trick. For EX: "Agreed. Seems like we'd really get along... well if you promise you won't bite And speaking of not really living anymore, what is the most adventurous thing you have done?" (or have done with a guy if you want to push it to the sexual zone) I always make everything very sexual, but you can tailor your response to what you're looking for. And you can totally convey everything you need to say by a few lines. Keep it short. And don't have too many things going on at the same time in your response, pick a focus point and emphasize it. Like my response above, I pointed all the attention to the fact whether if she's fun and adventurous or not. This will keep them in check and not getting sidetracked. After she replies, give her compliment on her good quality and you should be able to use it to number close. If she rejects, you can move on or if you really like her, you can brush it off and continue on with your conversation then try again after about 2-3 more responses. This time, go straight to setting a date instead.

Author:	TheYesMan [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:41 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Stuck... How can I close this one out?
Thanks man, I appreciate the response. Personally I hate lengthy responses myself but usually can't find the segway to the sexual context even if it's spelled out plain and simple. I also feel that there's a lot of risk there if you say something too sexual especially if its way out of context and there isn't a lot of comfort already built. Plus I perceived her comment, "Its my first time online dating and im just hoping that people are who they say they are and not some creeper....it is the interweb after all," to be kind of a warning right off the bat like saying, "If you push too hard I'm walking." On the other hand, she gave me way more of a first response than I really expected and I thought it was a very good one at that. I felt she was qualifying herself to me right off the bat. All I really read from it was that I asked an honest question and that's what I got back: an honest answer. Help me out though and indulge me a little more. How I could have turned the conversation to a more sexual context from her first response? Can you give me some examples from how you read into that response and her next so I can understand your thought process a little more? Personally, I think the second message is the hardest because you can't always gauge how they respond to the opener and it really sets the tone for the conversation. It's all a learning process anyway. I'm really looking to improve the quality of my messages and shorten the number of responses I need to get the number. I think your rule of thumb about 3-4 is a great benchmark. Thanks.

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