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Author:  Meadow [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:01 am ]
Post subject:  Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
So, I recently posted a topic about getting this girl to fall for me. Great answers, thanks guys, you were right. It shouldn't of been said through facebook. I didn't tell you guys this, but she has a mild form of dementia. Thats right. Dementia. And yet...I'm still soo freakin' attracted to her. I don't know why...I think it's the flaws she has that gets me. She's so beautiful but she does have a few roadblocks I have to try to get past...A daughter, 1 years old (doesn't live with her). Two guy room-mates, and more guy friends than girls ratio. Dementia. So yeah, maybe I have oneitis right now. Anyways...her facebook is often stricken with guys sort of "flirting" with her, shit like that...she showed me her message box, and it's chock full of dudes...I know she is not a slut because we didn't go all the way but got close, and she did say she wanted to take it slow. With all the other guys who could snatch her up, how do I cope? What do I do to stand out above the crowd? How do I overcome the competition I am potentially facing? Thanks in advance for the help...I really am infatuated with her. :oops: :roll:
Author:  TheRedBaron [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
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So, I recently posted a topic about getting this girl to fall for me. Great answers, thanks guys, you were right. It shouldn't of been said through facebook. I didn't tell you guys this, but she has a mild form of dementia. Thats right. Dementia. And yet...I'm still soo freakin' attracted to her. I don't know why...I think it's the flaws she has that gets me. She's so beautiful but she does have a few roadblocks I have to try to get past...A daughter, 1 years old (doesn't live with her). Two guy room-mates, and more guy friends than girls ratio. Dementia. So yeah, maybe I have oneitis right now. Anyways...her facebook is often stricken with guys sort of "flirting" with her, shit like that...she showed me her message box, and it's chock full of dudes...I know she is not a slut because we didn't go all the way but got close, and she did say she wanted to take it slow. With all the other guys who could snatch her up, how do I cope? What do I do to stand out above the crowd? How do I overcome the competition I am potentially facing? Thanks in advance for the help...I really am infatuated with her. :oops: :roll:
In pick-up, there's a technique known as "AMOGing" in order to disarm any guys that approach your girl when she's with you, yet do it in a way that leaves you looking non-reactive and relaxed (a positive) in the girl's eyes. I'm honestly not that well-versed on how to AMOG properly, but there's tons of info all over the internet on it.

Does her having guy roommates bother you? Her having lots of guy friends may or may not be something to keep an eye on (I have lots of attractive female friends, but have never wanted to hook up with them because I don't see them in that light.... only made out with 1), but her having guy roommates shouldn't be something you have to worry about. And whether or not it is, is really irrelevant... what you need to do is develop your sense of self and your confidence to the point where you don't CARE if she has a ton of guy friends or guy roommates or has an inbox full of messages from guys, because she has YOU and YOU are a fucking awesome guy she'd have to be retarded to ditch for any of the chodes throwing themselves at her. If you don't have that mindset (and it's hard to obtain, but feels so good), then fake it til you make it!

Speaking of which, just because she has a ton of guy friends and guys throwing themselves at her in no way means any guy can snatch her up. Remember that her friends are most likely just that... friends. And even if there's a little something else there with 1 or 2 of them, she's obviously really into you. As for the guys throwing themselves at her, which is something every girl has to deal with if she's even below average in looks.... no quality girl wants a guy like that. Don't even worry about them.
Author:  TheRedBaron [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
And as for standing out.... well, the short answer is "be yourself." And everyone fucking hates that answer, so I'll go into a little more detail:


Just based on your posts, I'm guessing you don't have the highest amount of confidence (my bad if I'm wrong). If you really want to be the kind of guy who stands out to girls, go to any party and look for the guy who's surrounded by the most people/girls. Watch what he does. In all likelihood, he's high-energy, funny, constantly touching people on the shoulder or arm or some variation, PLAYFUL, non-reactive, etc. And these kinds of guys aren't always good-looking or jacked or rich. They're operating from the mindset that they're an awesome person and they have an awesome life. Most importantly of all, their FRAME IS UNSHAKABLE. And that's really what it comes down to.... your frame. If this guy is joking and laughing and having fun at a party, and some meathead walks up and tries to embarass him in front of the girls he's talking to, his frame will be so strong that he'll just shrug off the jerkoff's hostile attempts like it doesn't even affect him. If he hits on a girl and she rejects him, he shrugs it off the same way.

Being the kind of guy a girl wants to be around means being consistent in this way, with a strong frame. Having a strong frame means having a strong sense of self and confidence. Having a strong sense of self and confidence..... well, everyone has their own way of going about finding that. For me, it was practicing cold approaching, getting into online game, and going on a shitton of dates until I finally realized that women are just the same as us, which helped me take them down off that pedestal I put them on, which made me feel more confident, and that's when I started getting laid a whole lot more. It all also helped me get more in tune with myself, become more playful and non-reactive.

TLDR: get in tune with your true self, be confident, develop a strong frame of your awesomeness. These are magnetic qualities women love.
Author:  Meadow [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
Thank you for your very informative answer, man. TBH, you are right on the confidence thing to a degree, though I'm not as bad as I used to be. I like you used to put women on high pedestals, but over the past year or so I've obtained a better mindset that they- like us- take shits. And they probably don't smell like roses. The girl I'm talking about is actually my first cold approach number close. Of course, it helped that she was in a cast. Right there, behind her in that Spencers line, I asked 'What happened to you'? and she was happy to tell me. Got her number. But yeah, this girl is hard to read. She sometimes seems very much into me and othertimes it's hard to tell....yeah the room-mates don't really bother me that much because she said she thinks of them more as brothers than anything and even though they are like 21-22, she see's them as 15 year old boys. It's the facebook boys that have worried me, but what you said put things in better perspective. I need to be the prize, and pull away a bit- (fractionation). I need to see things clearer.
Author:  TheRedBaron [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
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over the past year or so I've obtained a better mindset that they- like us- take shits. And they probably don't smell like roses.
:lol:

That's one of the things that helped me too. I still get intimidated by girls who are hotter than me (my level of attractiveness) from time to time, so I just imagine them doing shit that normal people do, or even laughing at a joke I would make. It helps humanize them and relaxes me.

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Of course, it helped that she was in a cast.
Love the girls in casts. They can't run away :P

The FB guys should be the least of your concerns. Most likely the only reason she keeps those messages or responds is for the ego boost... That's why a lot of girls do online game without ever having any intentions of meeting the guys they talk (if I had a ton of cute girls blowing up my inbox with shit like "YOU'RE HOT" and "Wanna fuck?" and "I know you probably won't say hi, but...." well shit, I'd keep them too. We all have egos and that shit feels good).


And yeah, after you dropped the L bomb on her over FB, it would help to pull away a little bit. Not full on freeze her out, but just enough to show her you have other shit going on in your life and you're not way more invested in her than she is (even if you are). Remember, doing things that makes girls think you're clingy/needy is the #1 reason why most guys blow it with girls they initially get on well with. Don't be that guy.
Author:  Meadow [ Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Overcoming [Heavy] Competition?
Thank you for your advice. And quick question...I know I'm not one of those guys because of our amazing night right? Like I'm not just one of those FB guys dime a dozen right?
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