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Author:  DrTooMany [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Working on C&F attitude

The following is a conversation I had on facebook with HB9 last night. We met through a friend so I sent her a friend request a week ago which she accepted the next day.


Me: Now that we're facebook friends I think we should keep in touch

HB9: That is the 1st step, being facebook friends

Me: haha, onto step 2

HB9: How are you?

Me: im good how are you? i see your new lover and I gotta say, I think you can do better(referring to a picture she recently posted of her and a statue with a caption saying, my new lover)

HB9: Ha! Life is good for me too, stone lover and all

Me: does he have a stone wife? cuz im lookin for a woman who can keep her mouth closed for a lengthy amount of time, they are hard to find

HB9: That's hilarious! I will have to find out. If not I could be your wing woman

Me: How exactly does a wing woman work? explain this concept to me

HB9: Oh so it's like a wingman. I approach a sweet little lady you would be interested in and work my magic. I'll say, Oh this is my friend Mike... He is so sweet... Blah blah..and then I walk away.

Me: so you're fine with lying then? cuz im not that sweet

HB9: Well honestly ladies love a jerk. Not sure why, but I do know since my divorce I won't give any nice guys a chance and all I date are bad asses

Me: thats good to know cuz ill be trying to attract a girl like you, give me more secrets

(no response for a while)

Me: well ive got to get going but i think i may have found a new partner in crime

HB9: Sounds good!

Me: oh and if you think im gonna help you find guys cuz you're gonna help me find girls, guess again

HB9: You are Seriously funny. Didn't know this about you

Me: yea, and this is over facebook, just wait til you can see my facial expressions too

HB9: Ha! well facebook is the 1st step remember

Me: i think we're ready to skip a few steps in my opinion. hows step 4 sound?

HB9: Michael. You don't ask that! I have plenty of men who want to get to step 4 with me... So you have to earn it

Me: u called me Michael, thats at least step 6. its Mike for now

HB9: Hahahaha. Yes sir. Oh... Girls love that... To be bossed around. And spanked. Well this girl does

Me: we might get along after all. unless stone man has a wife, then u have competition. ok but i really have to go now

HB9: Night

Me: goodnight


So I'm making the transition from afc to pua. I feel more pua than afc but I still need a lot of work. My C&F attitude seems to be coming along nicey but I'll take any help I can get so any pointers would be appreciated. I'll be seeing her out this weekend at my buddy's rock show. I could use some pointers on how exactly to get a K-close that night(thats my goal) I was never a touchy feely person so sometimes I struggle with kino. Any tips would be greatly appreciated

Author:  DrTooMany [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:22 pm ]
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thanks Tony I appreciate it. I actually could use help with what to do next when I see her out. I just edited my post. But yea this was my first real success at being C&F on facebook so I wanted to share/get any tips i could

Author:  Crypto [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:00 pm ]
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Seems she knows that you are putting up a front. Each time she showed you the path she wanted to go, you gladly followed.

I am not sure that she may not just be playing you...Keep us posted on how this develops.

Peace...

Author:  DrTooMany [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:49 pm ]
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thanks for the tips guys, much appreciated! ill definitely keep this updated. just to give u guys a little more info about me and why i still need help....

-dated a girl for 4 years.
-broke up 4 months ago
-was heart broken for the first couple months
-month ago started studying pua
-not as much field work as id like yet
-havent even attempted a K-close yet

im gonna have a couple beers this weekend to get some nerves out then ill be seeing her at a bar i know she will be at. im obviously going to try and keep the same frame i displayed on facebook, that shouldnt be too difficult. im worried about kino escalation and hopefully K-closing. thanks again to all readers

Author:  CountMackula [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Working on C&F attitude

Not too bad, you're on the right track.

You got her to open up a bit, but it's on Facebook PM, so it's "safer" for her to reply a little.

Good reframe on the "I'm not that sweet" or whatever.. but it's clearly a front you're not a "PUA" after one month, sorry, but I'm glad you feel less AFC and more PUA. I've spent time picking up women to bang and pumped/dumped girls that became annoying quickly after closing, etc. and my numbers are decent but I'd still not classify myself PUA.

Anyways, I know this was an old post, so I'm sure this meetup scenario has already happened, but I would say, continue to meet and talk to more women. I think of "oneitis" now the second I think about a girl I haven't slept with more than any other women I've met and I'm considering "strategies". When you see her, you want to be "natural".

Find some bars and restaurants, libraries, wherever, Hooters, if you have to, but find hired guns. It helps if there's a strip with 4 or 5 bars you can bounce between.

Go to each one and just have a drink and flirt with the hotties.

Move from one to the next location, hug, flirt, & bounce. It's a confidence builder leading up to your friends concert, and maybe even invite some of these women to your buddy's show. Find out if they have bf's and tell her to bring him too, if you frequent their establishments and they know you and show up, even if they got a dude, they'll be girls you know and show value in front of the HB9 and if their BF's are crap and on the way out, they'll see you there with your HB9 too, and that shows them you're capable of being ni the presence of women.

There's all types of possibilities. I'm personally NOT against the friendzone with women, I think they unlock "value" with other women (if they themselves are not interested) by showing you're actually not too "creepy" to hang out with and sometimes those "friend" girls will be playing "hard to get" and get jealous when they see you flirting and will come jump on you to steal you back, but I'd rather have 20 friend girls and no girlfriend then have zero girls even like to talk to me.

Study the tactical in your own time, so you're prepared, but focus a little less on the "tactical" in field and more about enjoying yourself and the women. Seriously, have fun with it in field.

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