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Author:  BirdBoy [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  what went wrong?
new to this online hype. i thought it went great..but no.
thanks darth for the opener too

Me:

Hey, I'd change that dp if I were you.


HB:
Hi, Haha erm why? Sorry who is this?

Me:

lol, I hope you can take a joke, I thought you were cute, I just had to say hi.

HB:
Haha i can take one so no worries, thanks. How did you even come across me though? X

Me:
you came up as a friend suggestion, and i thought i'd message you, you got a problem with that? [:p] you kinda look like the party animal type of girl. like the leader of your friends, mabey your more of a follower [:p]

HB:
Umm okay..

Me:

lol what? i like meeting new people. are you usually this awkward with your friends?
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:09 pm ]
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damn you birdboy, I assume this is facebook, STOP IT, BAD BAD, meet them in person, it is easier, when you say bad things, girls can't just hit the block button, they have to deal with the tension, just like you would, and dealing with the tension makes you better at dealing with tension, avoiding the tension and staying in your comfort zone won't help you improve, it will just help you remain comfortable (and you got lots of time to practise dude, rome wasn't built in a day)

anyways,

still falling into her frame, when you get cornered at the start, just don't follow her script, change the meaning into something postive don't follow her down the dark trail, she doesn't know where the fuck she is going, don't let her lead the way, have an idea of where you are going

that opener steals the frame nice,

why should I remove the picture? (the reason why = answer she wants, stays in her frame)

instead, your answer = hope you can take a joke, thought you were cute, had to say hi (doesn't fall into her frame, new frame = qualifying her, do you have a sense of humour? you're cute)

^ totally ignores what she wants, and addresses what you want (hitting on her and seeing what she is like)

hb: ''HAHA bla blah blah qualify myself I'm a hb give me back the frame! I'm hot you better answer my question!''

you: ''you came up as... sure ill give you the frame back and let you dictate what this means, cmon lead me, you got problems with this approach?, oh wait are you a leader?''

her: ''wtf?''

you: ''why wtf bro? you're weird''

hb: ''NO YOU!'' (doesn't respond)


the force is strong with this girl, she senses incongruence in your frame and it's only over text, be more genuine man, and stop caring about the approval, just move on with expressing what you want, what she wants is... meh, leave consideration for that after you screen her a bit to see if she is worth it

start addressing when she has qualified herself for you, reward that shit, and dissmiss her frame early, show her who runs this show, be strong, and drop the lines and stuff dude, that qualifier you used was just plain weird, find out qualities you actually want in a girl, and qualify them based on those qualities, I doubt you want a bossy party animal who always steals the frame (or maybe you do *shrugs*)

so here is an example of how you could have just held the frame, if she responds after that is up to facebook gods, and the gods of facebook are cruel evil gods,


HB: ''Haha i can take one so no worries, thanks. How did you even come across me though? X''

you: Awesome, I'm so happy you can take a joke.(wipes sweat off forehead) Girls with a sense of humour are the kind I crush on. Some girls take things way too seriously, a sense of humour and confidence in a girl is so hard to find. If you saw a cute guy on your reccomended friends, you would probably message that guy up in a heartbeat too, wouldn't you? I mean.. you seemed confident from your pictures.

anyways...

stop using canned shit, just remember, what you want, not what she wants, and speak from yourself not from a text book, use your own words, stay congruent to who you really are, what you really want, not what some book tells you to want in order to get a vagina to spread open for you, forget the vagina for now, it's about the person first, the vagina comes after the two people like each other and exchange mutual feelings, but you gotta lead that shit out of her, and even doing so with a clear vision of what you want does not mean she will want the same thing or have chemistry with you, or find you attractive, it's up to you to do all the work to figure out if everything lines up well and she is a good catch or not

and hopefully you want happy sunshine times, and talking and flirting, and meeting, and making out, and sex

just keep dis-qualifying things that clash agaisn't your frame, dissmiss them from the frame entirely, set your own frame, make your own threads, cut the ones that are not productive, and keep the ones that fall along the lines of your ends

and seriously dude, GO OUT IN PERSON, SOOOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER, sex doesn't happen on facebook, that is where every young guy goes to creep on girls cause it takes less courage, girls are aware of this, especially hot girls with facebook walls, that have legions of minions giving them compliments daily that they could never give in person, in person you can demonstrate that all powerful confidence and strengthen it, leave girls dumbfounded thinking, wtf is this really happening, wow this guy is so sure of himself even now when most would be afraid (drip, drip)

GOOD LUCK
Author:  hihothedario [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  POKE
Ok so I'm new here and I really feel like a dick for just coming in and imposing this without really knowing/having anything to contribute to your question, but I need to find someone who is willing to help me out here...who is actually online. lol.

Ok so I opened a HB9 by poking her first (of course), without adding her as a friend. When she poked back, the conversation went as so:



Me (about an hour ago)
Umm...did you just poke me?

..
HB9 (about an hour ago):

Umm...you poked me first.

Me (55 minutes ago):
Aw, come on now with the lies

HB9 (55 minutes ago)
HAH. you know it's true.

..
Me (45 minutes ago):

You know you liked it! lol. So if I had just come out of nowhere and slapped you on the ass, you're telling me that you would slap me on the ass back because I did it first? /

HB9 (10 minutes ago)

I'm pretty sure I'd slap you in the face.

..
Now, to me it appears that this is an impossible situation to recover from, but I would GREATLY APPRECIATE any input. Specifically, I'm hoping someone might be able to provide me with a great recovery response, some thoughts as to whether or not this is a shit test, and how/why/when/where I fucked up on this one for future reference. Thanks!
Author:  Crypto [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: POKE
As soon as she said "HAH. you know it's true" she was attempting to take the frame back...And, you let her lead you right out of her pants!
Quote:
HB9 (10 minutes ago)

You know you liked it! lol. So if I had just come out of nowhere and slapped you on the ass, you're telling me that you would slap me on the ass back because I did it first? /

Peace...
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