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| Author: | ag14 [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | having a lot of trouble, your help would be appreciated |
Alright, so I am new to the Online Dating Scene and I just moved to a new city so I decided to give it a shot. I have done everything from change the pictures in my profile, ramp up the about me section, and send great conversation starters but nothing is sticking. The messed up part about it is that I have been on 3 dates since I have been here with great looking girls I pick up when I am running errands. I can't FOR THE LIFE OF ME even get a response online. I was curious about what other guys were saying to these women so I even made a fake profile for a girl and within 10 hours I received 30 messages. These messages were the typical oh, your so hot and bullshit like that. I have never sent ONE of those messages and I can't get a girl to e-mail me once. I am not naive, I am the one who makes the first move but nothing is sticking. I don't understand what the hell is going on. I have sent over 50 e-mails either through match.com, okcupid, or pof and nothing is working. The link to one of my profiles is on the bottom. I have tried getting the help of Jsmooth but I have had no luck contacting him. Can someone please help me. I am trying to stay strong but this is kind of fucking up my inner game. This doesn't mean I won't continue to try harder but I am just saying, what the fuck is going on? Thank you in advance for your time. http://www.okcupid.com/profile/_oceanbo ... le_similar |
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| Author: | Facepalmer [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:41 pm ] |
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Try a different photo, that one is a bit blurred and I'm sure you must have some better ones than that. If not, try getting some new photos of yourself, practise shots, digital cameras are easy to get a perfect photo. |
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| Author: | jpow1981 [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:22 pm ] |
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Hey Face, I've been online dating since 2005, and in spite of spending about half of that time in LTRs, I've gone out with roughly 80-85 women I met online. I was terrible at internet dating at first, and it took me a long time to get a handle on it. Don't beat yourself up. There is not a 1-1 translation between real life pick up skills and online skills. Real life pickup is all about triggering attraction mechanisms and online dating is pretty much all marketing. I'm also quite positive that you have what it takes to be successful at this. I can tell that you're good at painting a picture with words, and so you're already way ahead of the game. I checked out your OKC profile, and you can probably find me in your visitors list. Issue number one is always the photo. It is worth 90% or more of your profile. You look like you're having fun, which is good, but, overall, I don't like the picture you've chosen for a few reasons. You can breathe a sigh of relief. Your looks are not the issue, but this angle is not flattering. Also, flash photography puts on about 15 lbs and 8 years. It is also not a particularly interesting photo in the sense that a woman can't really ask you much about it other than "where were you". Where you're holding your glass also suggests that you're feeling uncomfortable. If you look uncomfortable, a woman will feel uncomfortable about talking to you online. Your photos should all be interesting in at least one of three ways: 1. a woman could ask you about what was going on, or pay you a compliment, serving the same purpose as peacocking; 2. a woman should be able to picture herself as part of your lifestyle, 3 they should also make you look interesting. Think action shots and candids. You'll also want to post multiple photos. If you don't have good photos to post up, ask a friend. Change outfits and locations to make sure it doesn't look like a photoshoot. As far as your written profile goes, I love that you're telling a story, but this isn't the best approach for internet dating. People don't spend long looking at these things, so its crucial that you have info in there that is quickly available and easy to latch onto. You'll probably want to take another pass at it. Keep it focused on four areas: 1. Qualify the girl; 2. Qualify yourself; 3. Establish what you're looking for relationship-wise, and 4. how she fits in to your lifestyle. Also, just generally, while I love that you're trying to showcase your sense of humor, the whole battling papers and traveling by oxen thing is kind of weird. The image of you waving to old people as you pass by is also kind of strange. Instead, talk about how you accomplished two of your life-goals, graduating and moving to Atlanta; and that you love it there. Girls online usually feel as weird as you do about being on it looking for love. My suggestion is to act as if its a totally normal thing to do. Don't call it witch-craft. It doesn't make you come across as clever as you probably suspect. Take the rest of your profile and plug it into the four rubrics I mentioned above. Then supplement with more info where necessary. I'm sure you can make this work for you. It will take some hard work, but there's basically a 1:1 relationship between work put in and results with online dating (providing that you stay objective and constantly try out new things). As a first step, take whatever photos you have of yourself, and put them into OKC's Yourbestface program. You'll get an idea of which one will get you the best results. Good luck, and let me know how it turns out! JPow |
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