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Author:  JSmooth [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  My Online Method!

Okay, I've hada few requests from forum members and other PUAs to post something about my Online Sarging Method. I used to do Internet Sales for a car dealership. I kept the process I used to use then.

Essentially it's this, move them from email to IM or the phone as fast as possible. Then convince them to meet in person.

I post an ad on CraigList for a typical nice guy looking for a Long Term Relationship. LTR. Get your responses and qualify them with pictures and their descriptions, etc. Easily give or get their IM so you can talk more. When you get to IM, you are in A2 because the opening is done. She emailed you. Use your negs and false disqualifies, cocky/funny routines as you would if you were in the field. Continue with DHV stories, to hit the attraction switches. (Not sure what switches to hit, see LA Trip's recent post).

After building some comfort I'll use something like, "I'm tired of all this typing stuff, call me." What are you doing? HB - Nothing, sitting her etc. Then I move for the phone number. If you don't get it don't give up. Do some more negs, DHV routine stories, etc. Try again later.

*When talking on IM to your target don't talk to her everyday. That's AFC wait a day or two between. Similar to what you would do with phone game.*

When you meet in person realize you still have to go back to A2/A3 for a brief revisit to rebuild, confirm, and then move to C1 etc. Use your kino, she's comfortable with you already, don't be too shy. Always meet someplace public, for safety. Then do a bounce to an alternative location, that you can be more intimate. Sometimes it one of our places, one of our cars, another location entirely, etc.

The game online is like on the phone but I find it helpful when meeting to go back to A2 or A3 for a brief period just to build things back. Don't stay there long and go into Comfort quickly where you need to Kino.

Happy Hunting!
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You haven't lived until you felt the smoothness!

~J SMOOTH~

Author:  FreeLife [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:34 pm ]
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Nice post.

Another thing that I have noticed with online sarging is that the ESP-routine doesn't work. I tried it like 7 times today for testing and didn't get any numbers straight. I think that people pick different numbers when they see them visually instead of hearing them.

Author:  JSmooth [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  True

True, although I've had some luck with ESP on the phone.

Author:  Gun [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:03 pm ]
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I post an ad on CraigList for a typical nice guy looking for a Long Term Relationship
I dont like this. Even online you need an good opener that will allow you to open and initiate a conversation even with SHBs(10+). And the thing is that there 100000000000000000000000000000000 guys out there with these typical average-guy ads. this is a definite no. hope iv helped :)

Author:  Slick_uk [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Online Method!

Quote:
*When talking on IM to your target don't talk to her everyday. That's AFC wait a day or two between. Similar to what you would do with phone game.*
this is key! and something i always fall short on, cheers!

Author:  JSmooth [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Hey

Thanks Gun!

Here's my post exactly that I have been using. Critique at will.

"Header: I'll make you laugh, seeking a LTR! 25 SWM

Life is too short to take it too seriously. It's a lot easier to smile and laugh than to sulk through life. Just because I'm lookin for a Long Term Relationship doesn't mean I want to start off too quickly. I want to meet someone and take our time. If things "click" great, and if not maybe I'll have met a new friend.

I'll get right to the point. Here is what I am looking for: funny, intelligent, good conversationalist, social butterfly, honest, and you must have skills. It's important you can be just as comfortable with me alone as you can in a room of my friends. Looks aren't everything but help. Beauty is common, what I want you to tell me is what else you got going for you!

I'm 25 year old outgoing, funny, intelligent, and social guy. I like: spelunking, camping, fishing, swimming, shooting pool, listening to music, watching movies, dancing, basketball, Titans Football, comedy shows, and concerts. I have 2 of the 3 ingredients for a great life. I have the good HEALTH, the WEALTH I want. Now I just need to focus on the LOVE.

Send me a message, and please include a picture."

I'll let you critique it I agree it may be too typical. I tried to include DHV spikes with beauty is common, and I have the HEALTH, WEALTH, but am working on the LOVE. Let me know what you guys think.

Author:  babylonian [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:29 am ]
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it's smooth :))))

Author:  nineteen [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:15 pm ]
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i think it needs a little bit of bad boy in it....maybe a "frustrated bad boy.....who was put up to this by friends....cause you only meet chicks who you feel arent what your looking for exactly and your frustrated in that sense"......I dont know....seems like it would be alot more intresting.Maybe reiterate this isint something youv ever done DHV.

Author:  nineteen [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:17 pm ]
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oh and tell em your deff not here to meet friends....youv got enough of them anyways and if they are here for friends tell good luck on wasting theyre time looking for dates and finding friends

Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:05 am ]
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Thanks for all the postings and ideas. I'll incorporate them and let you all know how it goes. I just f-closed another last night from the Craigs List responses.

Author:  keroppi_gims [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:03 am ]
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how successful have u been with this profile jsmooth? As in, can you give a percentage of users who messaged you back after you initially messaged them?

If you were reasonably successful, could you post a sample message you send out?

Author:  JSmooth [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:11 pm ]
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I didn't message the users typically. Remember, I just took the ones that emailed me, and I weeded out those I didn't like for one reason or another. Then because they have already made contact with me, those that I emailed back I got to talk to and eventually date.

For example I emailed 7 girls back, I moved all 7 from email to IM, then I moved all 7 from IM to phone, then all of them from the phone to in person. 3 Kiss Closes, 1 Kiss Close plus Blow Job and 3 F-Closes.

I would post some responses but they are situational. I read what they wrote me and I take bits and pieces to neg them with.

Author:  JSmooth [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Addendum

I want to add some tips and pointers from a video I saw with Style and David DeAngelo, that I'm going to incorporate and encourage you to do the same.

1. Meeting women online is supplimental to meeting women in person. You don't get that high like you do when you walk up to a women and go from strangers to lovers. Make it a side project not your primary focus.

Reasoning- When you're a PUA you focus on all aspects of your life to make you more attractive. That in itself attracts women in the field.

2. On your ad "Don't do what's logical" do what is counter intuitive. If you've listen to or read David DeAngelo's stuff you will know what I'm talking about. IF not, then don't do the obvious.

3. Use average everyday type pictures. Don't do these tough man poses, with your shirt off, or with other women. However, I would peacock in the photos.

4. It's easily addictive! So don't think about it too much. Check your email for them every now and then. Don't get obsessed with it, stay in the habit of going out in the field.

*Also when guys get obsessed with it. They tend to smother the women when they email him. If you make yourself unavailable by going out in the field and other things. You can display that quality easier when you respond to them, with the attitude of I'm busy this is the 8th person to email me, etc. Mindset.

5. Find ways to incorporate the Cocky-Funny attitude in your profile and DHV spikes. In short be an asshole but a funny asshole. How many profiles sound like the David D typical wussy? Answer probably 90% or better.

I'm going to work on this on my own ad and encourage you all to do the same. Good luck, keep interest, attract, build comfort, then meet, then do your thing.

Author:  JamesFlames [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hey

Quote:
Life is too short to take it too seriously. It's a lot easier to smile and laugh than to sulk through life. Just because I'm lookin for a Long Term Relationship doesn't mean I want to start off too quickly. I want to meet someone and take our time. If things "click" great, and if not maybe I'll have met a new friend.

I'll get right to the point. Here is what I am looking for: funny, intelligent, good conversationalist, social butterfly, honest, and you must have skills. It's important you can be just as comfortable with me alone as you can in a room of my friends. Looks aren't everything but help. Beauty is common, what I want you to tell me is what else you got going for you!

I'm 25 year old outgoing, funny, intelligent, and social guy. I like: spelunking, camping, fishing, swimming, shooting pool, listening to music, watching movies, dancing, basketball, Titans Football, comedy shows, and concerts. I have 2 of the 3 ingredients for a great life. I have the good HEALTH, the WEALTH I want. Now I just need to focus on the LOVE.

Send me a message, and please include a picture."

I'll let you critique it I agree it may be too typical. I tried to include DHV spikes with beauty is common, and I have the HEALTH, WEALTH, but am working on the LOVE. Let me know what you guys think.
Excellent Mr Smooth, I will swipe and modify. That is text gold!

Author:  JSmooth [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:14 am ]
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Glad to help out!

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