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Author:  enrique [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  Moral problem really messing up my game and personal life
I'm new to the game. And feel confident about my game. It's not great but much better than most guys. In fact I feel like I could get most of the girls I want. But here's my problem.

I recently became Christian. And now I'm told premarital sex is wrong, or at least lust is. So now the ability to kick great game is clashing with people telling me it is wrong to be lustful.

After becoming Christian I abruptly stopped gaming all my options, which caused quite a bit of friction. And now each time I meet a new girl I'm attracted to I can't help but run game while simultaneously feeling guilty because of all this church stuff.

Currently I have 2 REALLY HBs who are in hands reach but I can't take them. This one pageant queen likes me and one of the hottest girls on campus likes me. And now I feel like I feel like I can't do anything. And I'm going on a Class trip to D.C we made plans as a group to go clubbing and I'm going to be staying in the same hotel with the pageant queen! It's like the ultimate set up for sex. Hot College aged Pageant Queen, a reserved hotel in another city, plans to go out, all under plausible deniability for a group "class project". But now I have to act like a good Christian. I have so many great things lying before me (see the pun?) but can't do anything. It's deeply frustrating

Pickup has brought me out of my shell, resolved tons of inner issues, captivated many beautiful women, great friends, and even landed me a job!. Pick up has all around improved my life.

Then religion comes around. It almost ruined my social life because so many girls got mad at me, my friends think I'm a pussy my game and overall social interactions are becoming worse than AFC. I even started stammering and I've always been very articulate even before Pick up. I have the ability to build relationships with really beautiful and smart women but religion ruins my game and causes great amounts of stress.

The Game is bringing me happiness and all the things I've always wanted and Religion takes it away. My ultimate question is if it is possible to work towards becoming a pua and be a good christian?

I don't want to choose between God and Game. But I feel like I'm going to have to. :roll:
Any advice as to what I should pick?
Author:  Twiggie [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:35 pm ]
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Okay so i am a really big Christian and one thing I've learned is that No one is perfect so if you feel you did something wrong then pray for forgiveness that's what I do and I'm pretty sure Jesus taught forgiveness to.
Author:  benlonghair [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moral problem really messing up my game and personal lif
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The Game is bringing me happiness and all the things I've always wanted and Religion takes it away. My ultimate question is if it is possible to work towards becoming a pua and be a good christian?

I don't want to choose between God and Game. But I feel like I'm going to have to. :roll:
Any advice as to what I should pick?
Just for reference, I'm an atheist. I was raised Congregationalist. I left any semblance of religion behind in high school better than ten years ago. I think that the concept of flying spaghetti monster* is just silly.

In reference to the bit I quoted, how exactly did you get involved in religion? Why? What were you looking to improve or what hole were you looking to fill?

In the words of my favorite band, "what good is something if you can't have it until you die?" Morality and religion are not the same thing. It's perfectly reasonable and possible to live a moral life without religion. However, it's almost impossible to live a religious life without some major guilt, as guilt is exactly how you are controlled from the pulpit.

Here's what I suggest to you. Google "Johnny Soprano seductive reasoning" and watch the first two parts of the free seminar (the page will be the first result from that search). I'm watching it currently and the first couple hours he focuses on how men and women have been subjugated through religion and guilt.

Religion is an implement of control. Ever see that internet meme of "Ceiling cat is watching you masturbate"? It's the same idea, except you don't need a hole in the ceiling for god to watch you. It's really pretty screwed up, if you think about it.

On the flip side, in reference to the first reply, it's kind of dangerous to believe that you can do whatever you want, and as long as you ask the invisible sky wizard* for forgiveness you're in the clear. Why is that dangerous? Simply because it disconnects you from your true neighbors here on earth. Who cares if they hate you? You've got FSM.

*I use FSM and ISW because they're names that show how arbitrary our concept of god is.
Author:  Ethan Hunt [ Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:55 am ]
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You don't have to have sex just because you're in "the Game". You can be in it solely for relationship purposes. how do you think "christian" guys get girlfriends? they have to have some "game" of some kind. you are just better equipped with game then them, and so you can strut on into church and nab the hottest one in there, while everyone else stands there with their teeth in their mouth.

Sure you might have to cut some things out of your life now that your a Christian, ...but you don't have to cut "PUA" out.
Author:  LonyGuy [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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I tend to agree with benlonghair, though i keep a safe distance between myself and telling another person what to chose.

In my opinion, you all ready chose the game, you realize that the game brings you happiness while religion takes it away for its own benefit (if you're not happy you'd just keep asking god harder and harder for that happines religion took away from you.

I don't know how much you're into faith and all, but i advice you to go with what makes you happy than the thing that tells you owe everything to someone who you can't even talk to.

Either way, good luck.
Author:  enrique [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:11 am ]
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I got it sorted out.
Any religion is against lust I see that as being oversexed. I destroys your mind. It;s important to remember that there are other thing in life. That aspect of my life is personal and no one needs to know about it, but I found my balance.
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