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| Author: | tobrico99 [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How can i make myself the aplha male..... |
Ok i know that by the title you are probably thinkin "what the hell !!?? read the book you moron " but its actually really really complicated so here goes.. I am best friends with this bloke i mean were THE best friends we go to clubs together we spent half our lives together ( not in that way like lol )..anyway when were walkin down the street let's say and a girl or a group of HBs walk by he is always the one to get the smile the look even if im the one to say "hi" or whatnot they ignore me almost completely .. now this guy is a HANDSOME man i know it sounds gay now but he is, i dont care what you all think now but he really is probably the most handsome lad in my town and my town aint that small ... anyway back to the subject, now im not gonna stop hanging around with this guy just because he gets all the girls and i get ZIP, btw i do get girls when hes not around but thats what im talkin about ... how can i make myself the alpha male im sick and tired to be the one to go home from the town alone and him with a girl almost everytime ... girls ignore me when im with him and not hanging around with him is NOT an option because were best mates and i mean best were always there for each other i would take a bullet for this guy and he would do the same,if a group of guys want to beat him to death i would be the one throwing myself in the middle to protect him . as i said im not gonna stop hanging around with him but i mean i wanna get the girl too... im sick of being the one to leave because he's giving me the hint "he's getting some" .. please i need some advice how can i be the alpha male like him how can i get girls to notice me and even listen to me when he's around and thats like all the time ... any thoughts are appreciated Thank You John |
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| Author: | RecklessVic [ Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:48 pm ] |
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I have an alpha friend that sounds just like the one you mentioned.. I just talked to him about being my wing. he was fine with it and actually wanted me to get some rather than take all them home himself. so what i do is split off at a party or a gathering go solo make and make some friends at the venue (social proof) and when i start to talk to a girl he will come in and talk me up.. your friend is high value correct? so if he is willing to raise your value you have everything to gain... |
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| Author: | tobrico99 [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:37 am ] |
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interesting thx vic...but one more question that has been bugging me could being foreign affect the girl/girls overall view about you? seems girls are repeled when i say that im foreign or when they find out themselves .. any thoughts? |
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| Author: | yokezg63 [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:15 am ] |
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A lot of people here like to think that routines and tactics make all the difference. I'm sorry, but I think that's bull. They'll certainly help a lot, but looks matter a great deal to women. We're all trying to mix our genes with the best looking cat out there - simple biology. Mystery or Style can battle all they want, but they're not going to beat a smooth-talking, financially stable guy who looks like Brad Pitt or George Clooney. If your friend is socially defunct, then it wouldn't be much of a problem. However, if he's as good at game as you are, then you're working on unequal footing. Even if you've got much crazier game, he's still got the initial attraction advantage. Women will target on him until he does something to screw it up. His face is all the social proof they need. Think of it this way: you've got to try and turn them on. All he has to do is not turn them off. When you're hanging out with the dude, I simply suggest not focusing on trying to pick up women. Go play poker or something with him. Since he's your friend, it's not like you can really AMOG-destroy him. Since he knows you well, he can probably do it back to you just as easily. If you REALLY want to club with him that bad, then just jokingly say to him, "I can't club with you anymore." When he asks why, tell him, "You're too good-looking. I can't hang!" He'll probably laugh at your compliment. Only say that to him ONCE. If you say it anymore, then he'll feel like it's bothering you, and make him feel awkward. Even though you say it as a joke, you've planted the thought in his head. Next time you guys go sarging, he'll remember what you said. If he's a good friend, he'll try and talk you up to them. As for your foreign question: stop thinking about it. You're a citizen of Pimpanavia, and that's all you need to know. Peace |
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| Author: | Chief [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:58 am ] |
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Quote: A lot of people here like to think that routines and tactics make all the difference. I'm sorry, but I think that's bull. They'll certainly help a lot, but looks matter a great deal to women. We're all trying to mix our genes with the best looking cat out there - simple biology. Mystery or Style can battle all they want, but they're not going to beat a smooth-talking, financially stable guy who looks like Brad Pitt or George Clooney.
lolDon't listen to blak000. He doesn't understand evolutionary biology at a sufficient enough level to be giving advice like that. He obviously hasn't looked into studies by Buss and Schmitt...and I question if he's actually read ANY actual primary source research by scientists in the field. It sounds like he's basing his arguments on faulty "common knowledge" that misinterprets science all the fucking time. For a more accurate interpretation of the scientific truth, I'll tell you that, YES we are trying to mix up our genes, and this is how we do it: Men look for fertility-oriented appearances, women look for success-oriented personalities. Sure, looks matter, but not nearly as much as your game. That's the truth. "The self is always coming through." This is something that TD says. It means that, no matter what you do, no matter what image you try to put out, the REAL YOU is always going to be shine through, whether you like it or not. This "real you" currently believes that you don't stand a chance at getting women when you are around your good-looking friend, and that energy is ALWAYS COMING THROUGH. This energy is coming from a belief that demonstrates the opposite of confidence. Since confidence is attractive, this self that is coming through will naturally be unattractive. Let's get back to the basics and work on your limiting beliefs. And remember... Focus on your blessings and your obstacles shall defeat themselves. |
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| Author: | yokezg63 [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:17 pm ] |
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Well Chief, I'm basing my knowledge off of what I learned from social psychology, sociology, and my relationships/attraction classes. I'm not using "common knowledge" - I'm using statistical analysis and data. And yes, I actually HAVE read many, many peer-reviewed journal articles. It's funny that you assume I don't understand enough. I've studied this for 4 years from many prominent experts in the field at my university. There's a whole body of work that points to the same conclusion. I don't know why my credentials in evolutionary biology are an issue, but I've taken anthropology, genetics, etc. I probably know more about that crap than you do. Unless, of course, you'd like to tell me what background you've got? Yes, you're right in saying that women look for success oriented traits. Notice I also mentioned that the superior looking males also were smooth-talking and financially stable. Studies have shown that women WILL ignore a good-looking man if he's not financially independent or possesses success traits. But if tobrico wants to make an impact, he's going to have to show some initial evidence that he's a more dominant male than his friend, and that his friend fails to meet their expectations. As some people here have pointed out, society is changing. Women are gaining more social value. One study showed that women from countries with large disparity in gender status often place traits like financial ability, social status, etc. high on the list. Women who are more independent (rich, high social status, etc.) begin to use the same criteria as men do (youth, healthy, looks, etc.). As women gain more power, this is going to become even more apparent. Looks DO matter; girls just won't chase it at the expense of financial success or dominance. Is your friend meek and financially broke, though? I stick by my statement. Your friend has the unfair advantage. He only has to do something to turn them away from him (showing them he's an unsuccessful male, socially defunct, etc.) You have to outshine him with personality and dominance in order to make an impact. Judging from your description, though, he's an AMOG, and he's good with women. The only thing you can do is show your dominance over him in some way. I will agree with Chief on one aspect: if you're maintaining a self-defeating mentality, then you're screwing yourself even more in your competition with your friend. Don't close up and act shy or aloof around them. Just try your best to be yourself and use your PUA knowledge as best as you can. Try not to think too much about his physical advantage. |
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| Author: | tobrico99 [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:48 pm ] |
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okay thanks guys ill use what ive learned |
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| Author: | Chief [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:30 am ] |
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Quote: As some people here have pointed out, society is changing. Women are gaining more social value. One study showed that women from countries with large disparity in gender status often place traits like financial ability, social status, etc. high on the list. Women who are more independent (rich, high social status, etc.) begin to use the same criteria as men do (youth, healthy, looks, etc.). As women gain more power, this is going to become even more apparent. Looks DO matter; girls just won't chase it at the expense of financial success or dominance. Is your friend meek and financially broke, though?
Oh, shit... I've been trying to keep my eyes peeled for a study like this. Who was this? I want to read this paper.I am a psychology major at my university, but most of what I am saying here is based on studies by David M. Buss. I like his stuff. I just think that most of the older research in the field has been biased by men's foundational belief that looks are the number one attraction factor. I try to pay attention to studies that stay away from such biases. |
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| Author: | yokezg63 [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:32 pm ] |
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I know it's mentioned in one of my textbooks somewhere. I've got a big exam coming up in 2 weeks, so I'll try to look for it after that's done. I assure you that it's real, though. When my social psych professor mentioned that point my brain blew a fuse. All those classes on sociology and human psychology made me realize that women aren't that different than men (they're just as horny as we are), and that a lot of what they do was ingrained into them by society. This all supports some of the PUA theories I've read (e.g., women trying not to LOOK like a slut, even though they do want to sleep with you) |
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| Author: | wtfpwnage [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:11 pm ] |
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now now, lets not turn this to a flame. But to the OP, why don't you just confront your friend, since you guys are as best as bestest buddies come? |
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| Author: | tobrico99 [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:02 am ] |
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wtfpwnage are u way in the head???im not gonna have a conversation with him bout how i want him to let me have girls...ive to find a way around it like vic said ask him to be my wing or just plow through the convos with routines and just be more interestin .. ill beat that cunt :DD ... ( really sorry for the language ) 
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| Author: | Sin7 [ Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:19 am ] |
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Survival of the fittest just practice steping up your game, if he's working on a chick hang out wing him for a min then use it as social proof work the room, r u guy's only talking 2 1 chick or what ? me and my friends were all bad all amog's that look good I could out game them all except one for a few years but now I can pawn him if I have to, so don't let failure bring you down make it your driving force, I used to get frustrated when I thought he was busting up my game, but it was my bad. next time u go out watch his body langauge learn from him he's a naturaul carry yourself with alot of pride. Just keep going and it wouldn't hurt to disscuss wingman my bestfriend and I had alot of goodtimes flying missions |
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| Author: | sn!pe [ Sat May 03, 2008 6:54 am ] |
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man, just keep through with ur game ive seen somepretty fugly guys with beastly game, and if u kno wat ur doing, you can actually get the chicks u want, be noticed/interesting BTW, game is an art. Everyone has their own style, and uve gotta match ur game to fit your surroundings and competition, so find wat works, and be urself 
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| Author: | com.solo [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:12 am ] |
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If you're willing to AMOG your friend, it's not hard. I do it all the time, and my friends are cool with it. Just depends if he's cool with it. An easy way to amog is just do MORE. Talk to more girls, neg more, compliment more, be more funny. Being higher energy often ups your AMOGness. Touching him on the shoulder occasionally is helpful. As is obviously false compliments. Like "dude, show her your abs. *to her* this dude has twelve pack abs, I shit you not"... it's subtly AMOGing, all in good humor. Maybe your friend isn't like that, but me and my mates AMOG each other all the time, and none of us give a damn, because we're all cool with it. |
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| Author: | GameDog [ Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:29 am ] |
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stand out be popular i cannot emphasize this mor standout and be popular be the leader the coach the man and ladies will follow |
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