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Author:  Shreder [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:50 am ]
Post subject:  Are You Ever Oblivious to Your Own Success?
This has happened to me more than once and I almost don't believe it when my friend told me this.

Me and a good friend of mine usually hang out every few weeks or so and just go cruising around our city and just go into whatever places strike us whether its guitar center, pawn shops, perhaps more importantly the mall.

Anyway we were heading back from just chilling out the other day and I had been peacocked (because hey, isn't everybody peacocked at the mall? :lol:) and my friend just casually mentions "Man I couldn't believe how many women I saw checking you out today!" and I just had a dumbfounded look on my face because I hadn't made eye contact with any girl all day (that I could remember except for this one 50 yr old woman on her smoke break who started hitting on me).

I just asked him if he was joking and how he saw all of them and he said that when he used to be a bouncer he would always be watching people interact at the bar and in the club when he wasn't busting people and so he could pretty easily recognize all the signals and IOI's. (btw I recently introduced him to the Game)

I know a lot of this is still inner game type stuff and that I should be taking full advantage of these blatant AI's (Approach Invitations). I have a good self image and believe that I am reasonably attractive physically and we obviously all have better traits that we want to share with the world and with women, but for some reason I can't recognize my own potential as a proficient pua especially as a "natural".

Does anyone else have this issue?
Author:  Brainz [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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Totally!
One of my motivators is precisely the same issue and I have a really culturally conservative history, so now that I'm noticing these things, I don't know what to do with it all. It's like striking rich but not knowing how to deal with money.. =p

Here's a funny story! In December I moved back from this small French Canadian town where they're not used to non-whites (they're really conservative!) and, because I'm not white, a lot of girls were actually taking notice to me more than usual -- it's as if I had suddenly became special or something!
However I've always had this silly problem: the older ladies hit on me, and the young ones, the ones I'm interested in, just look..
...hence the reason why I'm an AFC!

But one thing that I've learned to do is play along with the older ones for practice; it's like playing a mock game before you go out to face your opponent on the court!
But God! There was this one time when I was in a hospital and a 67 year old lady (who broke her ribs by falling) couldn't get over my hair and skin tone. I have this theory in evolutionary psychology, that some people just like genetic diversity! :wink:
Author:  sweetw1982 [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:59 pm ]
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I've been a writer for quite a while so that is one thing i do well most of the time. I enjoy being a people watcher as i've heard it put. I enjoy looking at people, making judgements based upon what i see. my friends and i try to figure out what people are talking about based on their body language, we are wrong most of the time so we then make our own conversations.
You'll be amazed at the things you start to notice when you start to notice. I've seen two deaf people having an argument, the girl smacked the guys hands down which i assumed means shut-up, lol.

make a game out of it and you will have fun doing it. by doing that you will also condition your mind to do it all the time. Then when you go out it will be automatic.

B-Sweet
Author:  Rotor [ Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:20 pm ]
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Now this is a guy you should absolutely wing with. Because he knows what to look for he can direct you into sets that will be more receptive to your company. Work out how you can coordinate the transition between the IOI's he's seeing and your approach and do the same for him.

I was in a similar situation at a restaurant, after we leave, my buddy tells me that the waitress was really digging me, but I just chalked it up as false IOI's typical of hired guns. He was watching her with other customers and saw the difference, something I couldn't have done being inside the situation.

Remember that sometimes the best perspective is from a third person, learn to use it.
Author:  yokezg63 [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:39 pm ]
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That's my life story. I'll talk with a girl, she'll show interest, and I just walk away - totally oblivious. People tell me later that the girl was interested. One time, a girl working at a pool hall didn't charge me for an entire session, and I still didn't catch on. The only reason why I found out was because she eventually taped a note onto my driver's license. Yeah, I was THAT bad.
Author:  cc [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:55 pm ]
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i get told all the time why are you single you should have woman left and right you know how to work it you just dont. Its true i do know how and i am not affraid of approching/ talking with woman i just dont do it i would rather go off auto racing or hang out in my own world i dont know why this is it just is lol
Author:  chi [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:32 pm ]
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ugh brainz I actually hate when white women do that...its usually just some kind of fetish for them.

Yeah this happens to me too..what happens is that a girl IOIs me, and I don't notice, but she somehow keeps this crush on me for months, until I think her IOIs and constant touching and cuddling and seducing finally hammer into my subconcious and I start liking her back, to the point of dreaming about her, but then when I realize what is going on its too late and she has given up...and then I try to win them back but its an uphill battle...I think they feel like i have rejected them somehow. I realized this pattern, and from now on I'm going to look at every girl with the possibility that she is showing interest in mind.

It's weird, bcuz when I'm travelling out of town this isn't ever a problem, girls are super obvious and we're all over each other, but then when thats over and I get home the girls are just too subtle for me...being the emotionally idiotic but smoking hot guy sucks lol.
Author:  Kalel [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:39 pm ]
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That was my problem too. I could speak to women easily and smoothly, but i could never catch the iois. Now looking back I lost so many opurtunities due to my ignorance. I think alot of Afcs are like this. They have good conversational skills and are the Amog, but miss iois.
Author:  kasabi [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:34 am ]
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Guys . . . try this out.

Wear a nice shirt, comb your hair, spray some cologne. Now go outside!

Every girl that walks towards you, just look at them and smile. Add a "Hi" when you're close enough . . . keep walking. I don't care what you think you look like, you will get a "I must groom myself" IOI absolutely more than 50% of the time. The hair brushing to the side, adjusting of clothes, etc . . . This isn't a choice. It's an automatic reaction to being in close proximity with a potential suitor.

Here's the funny thing . . . Once your pry open the "IOI Can", the IOI's will continue to flow as long as you don't make a jack ass of yourself. And another funny thing . . . I am convinced that best time to take advantage of the IOI is directly after you receive it. I mean, it should be immediate! An IOI isn't just a physical movement. It's a physical movement that is associated with emotions of attraction and like any emotion, these emotions will change.

So just to gain confidence, try the "walk, look, smile, hi" routine. Make NO mistake, those reactions will occur RIGHT after the HB's eyeball you and those reactions are indeed IOI's.
Author:  Mr_Lover_Man [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:09 am ]
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That's my life story. I'll talk with a girl, she'll show interest, and I just walk away - totally oblivious. People tell me later that the girl was interested. One time, a girl working at a pool hall didn't charge me for an entire session, and I still didn't catch on. The only reason why I found out was because she eventually taped a note onto my driver's license. Yeah, I was THAT bad.
I know exactly what you mean lol
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