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Author:  Poonraker [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Bad wingman

So I live with one of my old friends, and we usually go out together. I have made an active effort to meet new people since we both moved here two years ago, so I usually am the one who introduces girls to him. He is pretty game unaware, and is just not a great team player in general. That's fine, I've tried to explain things to him but he isn't one to take my advice on things of this nature.

My main problem is that whenever I have something going with a girl (ie we've been flirting or have hooked up) he, not knowing many other girls, spends the entire night relentlessly hitting on that girl. He will buy her drinks and never leave her side. I'm not necessarily a jealous person when it comes to girls and other guys, but when my guy friends try to hook up with girls that I have been with, or whom they know I'm trying to hook up with, I get really pissed off. My entire friend group has operated like this for years, with one guy bringing a girl and everyone spending the entire night hitting on her, and I have always thought it was stupid (Not until becoming game-aware did I realize how detrimental it was to all of us in general). I really have never done this because of a guilty conscience or maybe just that I'm not willing to strain friendships in exchange for a possible hookup. One time my roommate's ex-gf, came onto me really strong while they weren't dating and I shut her down because I'm not an asshole.

Basically, it's not that he steals girls away from me, but I feel like it just ruins a lot of nights for me because I end up getting really annoyed with what's going on, and it keeps me from being able to escalate things with him around. I confronted him one night when he and the girl i had been banging walked out of the bar while I was in the bathroom, and I caught up to them holding hands, and confronted them. He just played dumb and said they were only holding hands. Later he just said that the girl had said that she and I were done (bc I wouldn't date her), as though that were justification for his behavior. Anyway, my question is whether I'm being a little bitch with jealousy issues or if I need to just stop going out with my friend (difficult, since we live together)? Should I just look at this as an opportunity to hone my game? I know this wasn't brief, but I wanted to explain things. What would yall do?

Author:  Sparroww [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bad wingman

Well obviously different groups of people will have different views on this shit.
My friends and I operate on the rule of: If I'm after this girl, you are not allowed to try shit with her until A. I have successfully banged her and decided I don't want to see her anymore, or B. I failed to bang her and have moved on to some other girl. If you're still trying to bang her, or still banging her, then she's off limits.

So, from my perspective, your friend is fucking up. Go kick his ass :P

Author:  numbersgame [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bad wingman

i completely and utterly know here you are coming from. since becoming "game aware" as you say i have been out with my old friends, people who are just acquaintances and work people... many of whom will do the most repulsive stupid shit around girls and when i try to help them out they come out with some shit like: girls will like me for who i am! or "your just playing mind games" iv just started to accept that they dont care and wont listen, they will have to be fazed out of my clubbing circle and ill just go to pubs or football or some shit if i want to see them.

i Evan had one chode i used to hang aroud with recently do similar to your example, buying almost every girl i opened a drink, towards the end of the night i was clutching at straws, had this ..3 grinding on my dick. she would have been d.t.f im sure. he picked her up and tryed to kiss her, she jumped off him and pretty much ran away.(she was no longer interested in aether one of us to say the least) both went home alone and needless to say he wont get a call next time i need a wing!

Author:  LarryDavid [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bad wingman

This isnt on the topic of this forum but its driving me crazy!!!

I am knew to this site and can not figure out how to fucking make my own forum/ post?!?!

How do i do this?!?! pleeease and thank

Author:  Themagicalone [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bad wingman

Quote:
So I live with one of my old friends, and we usually go out together. I have made an active effort to meet new people since we both moved here two years ago, so I usually am the one who introduces girls to him. He is pretty game unaware, and is just not a great team player in general. That's fine, I've tried to explain things to him but he isn't one to take my advice on things of this nature.

My main problem is that whenever I have something going with a girl (ie we've been flirting or have hooked up) he, not knowing many other girls, spends the entire night relentlessly hitting on that girl. He will buy her drinks and never leave her side. I'm not necessarily a jealous person when it comes to girls and other guys, but when my guy friends try to hook up with girls that I have been with, or whom they know I'm trying to hook up with, I get really pissed off. My entire friend group has operated like this for years, with one guy bringing a girl and everyone spending the entire night hitting on her, and I have always thought it was stupid (Not until becoming game-aware did I realize how detrimental it was to all of us in general). I really have never done this because of a guilty conscience or maybe just that I'm not willing to strain friendships in exchange for a possible hookup. One time my roommate's ex-gf, came onto me really strong while they weren't dating and I shut her down because I'm not an asshole.

Basically, it's not that he steals girls away from me, but I feel like it just ruins a lot of nights for me because I end up getting really annoyed with what's going on, and it keeps me from being able to escalate things with him around. I confronted him one night when he and the girl i had been banging walked out of the bar while I was in the bathroom, and I caught up to them holding hands, and confronted them. He just played dumb and said they were only holding hands. Later he just said that the girl had said that she and I were done (bc I wouldn't date her), as though that were justification for his behavior. Anyway, my question is whether I'm being a little bitch with jealousy issues or if I need to just stop going out with my friend (difficult, since we live together)? Should I just look at this as an opportunity to hone my game? I know this wasn't brief, but I wanted to explain things. What would yall do?
Sounds like to me that hes afraid to approach these girls so when he sees you with one he then can come up to you and talk to her with no fear of being denied, long story short I wouldn't go clubbing with this guy he seems like a leech whose afraid of going after his own tail. I'd talk to him man to man and lay out what I think to him and give him one more chance, if he fucks up again (which he probably will) looks like you'll need another wing

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