PUA Forum :: Common reasons your not getting laid

dude i am the chode you speak of i know a bunch of shit now and i can start random conversations with alot of strangers but i just can't fucking seem to #close. And i know what my problem is. I am to scared to act for fear of rejection. I honestly never asked for a girls number yet. Ugh man i feel so down right now.

I think some "innocent" closes or Temperature Checks might be the go.
eg:
"We have to get going. We are going to X Beach tomorrow. Have you been there? If you are not doing anything, you should meet us there. Its pretty cool"

"You will have to call me the next time you guys go out so we can meet again" (wait for them to give their number to you. If they dont, say "why dont I get your number and call you next time we are out?"

"We are going to check out this club around the corner. I have heard it is pretty cool. Im not sure though. Do you guys want to check it out?"

If they reject you, no problem because you have only done a soft close and not put yourself out there in a Do or Die situation

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I feel a big problem within the community is the high focus on number closing. Personally, I feel that learning to pull to sex first would be better. Thats also how I do it.

I never go for a number until its literary my last resort. I only go for her number after I have tried several times to pull her out of the club.

IDK where I read it, someone said "all phone game is only to transition to Day 2." Maybe it's been in Magic Bullets. Anyways, some PUA's use it also for comfort building. Myself, I'm cheap, I'm not spending money on texts and calls unless I can prevent it, I've found IRC game to be much more useful.

Btw, to reply to the original post, the biggest problem AFC's face IMO is not leading enough, lack of dominance. You can pull EVERYTHING off if it's your style, if you're leading to the ultimate goal (sex, relationship, fuckbuddy, personal sandwich-maker, etc...).

Just my 2 cents.

Am i the only person that does not talk on the phone! Do all of you talk on the phone?? Just curious...

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:33 pm ]
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I know a ton of people here who have been practicing pick up for a while now (4 months +) and still not getting laid. If you have been approaching not just just choding out and being a pussy, by 4 months you should have gotten laid from cold approach by now. If you haven't consider these following reasons and take action: 1) Not leading If your not dictating where the interaction goes then your leaving it up to her. If you have been around the community for even a month you should know why leading is good and not leading is bad. Led her mentally (emotions) and lead her physically. 2) Not being physcial/sexual I've wrote quite a bit on this topic in the past so check out my other post, specially my post "ESP Model of Escalation." Basically you have to be physical and sexual with her. If not then your just another chode who is playing it "nice" with her and will come off as boring. Being physical and sexual turns her on and will make her want to fuck you. 3) Not going for the close Man up and go for the close and go for it often. Im not talking a number close either...I'm talking about pulling her to a sex location. A lot of times guys will try to pull once, face resistance, and give up. DON'T DO THAT! At first you don't succeed, try, try again! 4) Not playing to win and taking bold moves This again ties into not being a pussy chode. Play to win! Most guys play to not loose (playing safe) and by doing so they loose. Make the bold moves you need to make and play to win.

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:37 pm ]
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Great post. Totally agree with points 1-3. When I first started out,what gotten me laid within the first 4 months was doing opposit of point 1. I was leading the inerraction.

Author:	Dr.Joyful [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:43 pm ]
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dude i am the chode you speak of i know a bunch of shit now and i can start random conversations with alot of strangers but i just can't fucking seem to #close. And i know what my problem is. I am to scared to act for fear of rejection. I honestly never asked for a girls number yet. Ugh man i feel so down right now.

Author:	Diego1234567 [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:11 pm ]
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Quote: dude i am the chode you speak of i know a bunch of shit now and i can start random conversations with alot of strangers but i just can't fucking seem to #close. And i know what my problem is. I am to scared to act for fear of rejection. I honestly never asked for a girls number yet. Ugh man i feel so down right now. Just make this weeks objective to #close 1 girl this week. she doesnt even have to be attractive. Next week 2 girls, week after that 3 girls THEN as you get more confident UP the attraction rating in your closes. Small improvements create big changes. There are many people who can even start a conversation so you shouldnt feel bad.

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:17 am ]
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Quote: dude i am the chode you speak of i know a bunch of shit now and i can start random conversations with alot of strangers but i just can't fucking seem to #close. And i know what my problem is. I am to scared to act for fear of rejection. I honestly never asked for a girls number yet. Ugh man i feel so down right now. I feel a big problem within the community is the high focus on number closing. Personally, I feel that learning to pull to sex first would be better. Thats also how I do it. I never go for a number until its literary my last resort. I only go for her number after I have tried several times to pull her out of the club.

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Author:	MysterWannabe [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:10 am ]
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I think some "innocent" closes or Temperature Checks might be the go. eg: "We have to get going. We are going to X Beach tomorrow. Have you been there? If you are not doing anything, you should meet us there. Its pretty cool" "You will have to call me the next time you guys go out so we can meet again" (wait for them to give their number to you. If they dont, say "why dont I get your number and call you next time we are out?" "We are going to check out this club around the corner. I have heard it is pretty cool. Im not sure though. Do you guys want to check it out?" If they reject you, no problem because you have only done a soft close and not put yourself out there in a Do or Die situation

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:43 am ]
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Quote: I think some "innocent" closes or Temperature Checks might be the go. eg: "We have to get going. We are going to X Beach tomorrow. Have you been there? If you are not doing anything, you should meet us there. Its pretty cool" "You will have to call me the next time you guys go out so we can meet again" (wait for them to give their number to you. If they dont, say "why dont I get your number and call you next time we are out?" "We are going to check out this club around the corner. I have heard it is pretty cool. Im not sure though. Do you guys want to check it out?" If they reject you, no problem because you have only done a soft close and not put yourself out there in a Do or Die situation When I talk about closing I'm talking about pulling her out of the club to a sex location.

Author:	skills360 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:40 am ]
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Quote: Quote: dude i am the chode you speak of i know a bunch of shit now and i can start random conversations with alot of strangers but i just can't fucking seem to #close. And i know what my problem is. I am to scared to act for fear of rejection. I honestly never asked for a girls number yet. Ugh man i feel so down right now. I feel a big problem within the community is the high focus on number closing. Personally, I feel that learning to pull to sex first would be better. Thats also how I do it. I never go for a number until its literary my last resort. I only go for her number after I have tried several times to pull her out of the club. I would never get a number unless i made out with the girl at a minimum... Good stuff!

Author:	zappo [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:02 pm ]
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Also texting too much , Ive done this myself and it just kills the interation off . Always be leading to a day 2 with texting thats my moto . Stop texting to find out about eachother text a bit for comfort which should only be a few texts and lead it to a day 2. Too many people ( and I admit me myself) Get too comfortable with just texting girls alone and dont actually lead the interaction any where, to the point it just becomes stale :\

Author:	Paetar [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:47 pm ]
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IDK where I read it, someone said "all phone game is only to transition to Day 2." Maybe it's been in Magic Bullets. Anyways, some PUA's use it also for comfort building. Myself, I'm cheap, I'm not spending money on texts and calls unless I can prevent it, I've found IRC game to be much more useful. Btw, to reply to the original post, the biggest problem AFC's face IMO is not leading enough, lack of dominance. You can pull EVERYTHING off if it's your style, if you're leading to the ultimate goal (sex, relationship, fuckbuddy, personal sandwich-maker, etc...). Just my 2 cents.

Author:	skills360 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:56 pm ]
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Quote: IDK where I read it, someone said "all phone game is only to transition to Day 2." Maybe it's been in Magic Bullets. Anyways, some PUA's use it also for comfort building. Myself, I'm cheap, I'm not spending money on texts and calls unless I can prevent it, I've found IRC game to be much more useful. Btw, to reply to the original post, the biggest problem AFC's face IMO is not leading enough, lack of dominance. You can pull EVERYTHING off if it's your style, if you're leading to the ultimate goal (sex, relationship, fuckbuddy, personal sandwich-maker, etc...). Just my 2 cents. Use google voice is free...

Author:	skills360 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:57 pm ]
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Am i the only person that does not talk on the phone! Do all of you talk on the phone?? Just curious...

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:23 am ]
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Quote: Am i the only person that does not talk on the phone! Do all of you talk on the phone?? Just curious... I pretty much never talk on the phone.

Author:	skills360 [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:57 am ]
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warped minds i do not know you, but i can smell the game a mile away, you got game sir, wish you could have been a moderator...

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Author:	Rox [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:12 am ]
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Dude, as usual awesome. Number three is a biggie with some guys, I try and reinforce this one like crazy, being sexual, be grabby! touch, feel, and have fun! I do this with girls all the time, go for it the first time, no. Go for it the second time, Ian(no fear of my real name being on here), stop. Go for it the third time and cha ching! In the pants. If you go for it all the way all three times, the first time you will feel the will behind it, the second you can feel it weakening and the third they crumble. Getting no's is good, cus it gets them out of the way for you to continue.