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Author:  Fin [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Going Indirect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJ ... r_embedded

Credits go to Jav for sending me this link. It's a ten minute peice on the links between language and intent.

I know this is a can of worms for most people but it seems Indirect seems to be very much akin to the "etchings" example.

It allows for escalation in a way that, rejection would not need to be aknowledged were it to arise.

(This is actually quite interesting as you can mold a girls behaviour on compliance, then introduce the sexual element thus increasing the chances of the sexual element being accepted.)
^^

If an individual gets to voice there rejection or have it made clear through "mutual knowledge" often the opinion of rejection becomes an even stronger one.

When the rejection is just in her head or made ambigious between the two of you, the set back can be over-come alot faster as it is not "out there".


Is this making sense to anyone here?

Author:  Kupid [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:32 pm ]
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I think that simply (off the topic) if you look at direct/overt vs. indirect/covert approach/conversation/interaction... call it whatever you want is structured in ratio risk vs. reward.

If you state your intent, without "embellishing" it, you made a high risk decission, but you'll instantly know where you're at did you get your reward/punishment.

Same goes, for stating your intent in directly, you didn't risked much, so you can get the whole variety of comebacks, which can/can't do you any good, but you can quickly fix things up.

In other words, simply said
DIRECT Instant reward/punishment, high risk, low chance of fixing it.
INDIRECT Covert reward/punishment, low risk, high chance of fixing it.

Author:  dakiller [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:37 pm ]
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Quote:
I think that simply (off the topic) if you look at direct/overt vs. indirect/covert approach/conversation/interaction... call it whatever you want is structured in ratio risk vs. reward.

If you state your intent, without "embellishing" it, you made a high risk decission, but you'll instantly know where you're at did you get your reward/punishment.

Same goes, for stating your intent in directly, you didn't risked much, so you can get the whole variety of comebacks, which can/can't do you any good, but you can quickly fix things up.

In other words, simply said
DIRECT Instant reward/punishment, high risk, low chance of fixing it.
INDIRECT Covert reward/punishment, low risk, high chance of fixing it.


and also if direct works it doesn't take long to get with her, but it has more chance of failing. HOWEVER, although indirect has less chance of failing, and if the girl isn't attracted you have probably wasted more time and effort than if you went directly

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