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Author:  VanHaven [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  I got called out on how much I've "changed"
I don't consider this a field report by any means since I wasn't even hitting on this girl. I just thought it was funny and wondered how many of you other guys have had this happen. I was driving to the beer store with a girl I messed around with a couple of years ago. She has no clue I've been in the community for the last year and kept commenting to me last night about how I was always such a nice guy before and I seem so much more different. She actually told me I was more cocky and selfish. What I thought was funny is this whole serious conversation got started because I wouldn't let her holod the ipod.
Author:  xxIcexx [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:53 pm ]
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haha good shit, the girls at my job told me i've changed too, in my opinion i think its good, i used to be the nice guy and now im not

because being nice doesnt get you laid
Author:  LuckyMan [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:02 pm ]
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last year at school i was REALLY funny, it's just i showed it around my friends, or even then i was quiet. now people say, "wow you've changed so much," it's stupid.

i've been the same, it's just now i show my funny spirit.

but they love it 8)
Author:  They Call Me Lucid [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:27 pm ]
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ive just started but my friends and i before were hopeless and at parties we would mostly just stand by each other and not go outside our circle like common afc's. i have been working my opening game and trying to hone that before i go on to more so lately i will approach sets right off the bat and start talking with random people making new friends and all. i got a few girls numbers one night and turned around and saw one of my friends sleeping on the couch and the other one just standing there bored as hell lol. afterward they were like "omg how did you do that!? tell me all about it". i just told them they have to go around and talk more. you cant get anything done by standing around. just wait until i get to the seduction stage :D they will be REALLY curious then haha
Author:  xxIcexx [ Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:34 pm ]
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nice dude, dont tell them shit until they beg you
Author:  mike1234 [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Changing
I think about it this way: A nice guy is FAKE as shit! When something bothers him or a girl says something stupid/annoying, he just shuts his mouth or gives a big smile instead of being a man and saying what he really feels.

I know because I used to be a nice guy. I can honestly say I was completely fake, I would avoid confrontation instead of saying what I believed.

SO, maybe you've CHANGED, but in reality, you are actually more YOURSELF by learning to be a PUA. I personally have CHANGED, but I changed from a fake person to my true, fun, crazy personality. I no longer care what a hot piece of ass thinks, that will never stop me from being cocky/funny, ect.

If someone ever told me I have changed, I would actually explain to them what I just said and I would ask them, aren't they happy that I'm now my true self and not some loser worried about avoiding confrontation and sticking to societal norms.

If they had a problem with that I'd say fuck you and I wouldn't talk to them again. We are men, we don't have time for bullshit like people who can't deal with our self-improvement.
Author:  gravesRR7 [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:32 pm ]
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my ex tells me every time we see eachother how much i've changed.

but low-and-behold, she wants to see me more often now, she calls, texts me, we had sex a month ago (something we hadn't done for the last 4 months of our relationship), etc.

Maybe I'm different, but that's because I've improved myself
Author:  Ink [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Being called out on your changes
This is something I personally have thought about a little as I have had some flirtings with peacocking.

I am a naturally cocky, funny guy. I had not realised this until recently during my oua discovery. Its actually something I feel I should tone down possibly. My big concern though is that when I am trying clothes and weird stuff out my friends, assosciates and GIRLFRIEND might pick up on what Im doing. A problem. Any good ideas on comebacks when being called out?
Author:  Kontrol [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:09 pm ]
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I know this one girl that i met back when i was a hardcore AFC about 6-7 months ago. I actually did like her at first, probably because no one had ever showed me that much attention as she did. My AFC ways eventually made her lose interest, but we continued to talk occasionally as friends. Then about 3 weeks ago (when i started studying about the PU arts) we where texting each other she said that i was acting different. Then I saw her at a party a week later and she told me that I was a completely different guy, that i wasn't the same guy that i was when she first met me. That i did a complete 180 turn and seemed more outgoing and sociable. Damn, it felt so sweet hearing that... then get this. She told me that all my changes are fine and she respects that but when im with her she wants me to act like the old me (like an AFC). So i told her "Well thats just not gonna happen."
Author:  Krylon [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:22 pm ]
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I know this one girl that i met back when i was a hardcore AFC about 6-7 months ago. I actually did like her at first, probably because no one had ever showed me that much attention as she did. My AFC ways eventually made her lose interest, but we continued to talk occasionally as friends. Then about 3 weeks ago (when i started studying about the PU arts) we where texting each other she said that i was acting different. Then I saw her at a party a week later and she told me that I was a completely different guy, that i wasn't the same guy that i was when she first met me. That i did a complete 180 turn and seemed more outgoing and sociable. Damn, it felt so sweet hearing that... then get this. She told me that all my changes are fine and she respects that but when im with her she wants me to act like the old me (like an AFC). So i told her "Well thats just not gonna happen."


I know exactly what you mean. I've had two ex's comment me in the past few months on the "new" me. I told them it's not new just the part they didn't look at.

I used to be a big AFC and when My ex fiance tried calling me while I was out I ignored her call when I would usually jump at answering it. I continued ignoring her for a few days before I answered. It's not so much that we've changed, but that we've allowed ourselves to be more open. We are the "best versions of ourselves" in Styles words.

When people you used to know see you being different/more social and outgoing they're going to question you naturally. It's human instinct. Just brush it off and tell them that they must not have known you well enough to say that.
Author:  dman [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:33 am ]
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you are not alone, I've had comments on how I've changed

plus anyway it is not always do with the community, but just simply how you change as you get older. like apparently I'm more "corporate" now
Author:  Beaker [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:48 am ]
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You probably more selfish and greedy but your also probably also getting a lot more attention."It's not enough to be your self...be your best self"
Author:  Diaz [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:00 pm ]
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I've had the same, I used to be rather unpopular when I was younger

Now when I meet people I knew back then they can't believe that I can be the same person they used to know (used to be skinny as hell and rather nerdish) and the switch to sports/gym 5-6 times a week, taking care of my looks and learning some pua techniques.. lets just say there is a huge change in a few years.

Girls that didn't even talk to me try to hit on me and guys I never came along with are trying to hang out with me cause I always have chicks around me :P
Author:  Roads [ Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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Positive proof that PUA is working for you there buddy.

Just don't turn into a jerk, you can retain most of your morals and still get ass.
Author:  delta4ce [ Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:07 am ]
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"You used to be such a nice guy" [with a smile, look of surprise] == i used to be able to manipulate you because you thought i was hot in otherwords its working

if you get "wow You're a jerk now...wtf happened to you"-- you probably are a jerk, or you negged too hard [probably insulted not negged someone]
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