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Author:  touchhere1 [ Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:51 am ]
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hey for my first post i would like to introduce something that works pretty damn well, (works well in bookstores coffeshops etc) go up to the girl and tell her that her beauty has inspired your to higher arts, and ask her if your can draw her. when she says yes just draw a stick figure and a funny headliner pretend to be working hard and dont make any excuses!

Author:  sorin [ Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:42 pm ]
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you are right with the last part: no excuses...

you are right with the first part... tell her she's beautiful... but only say it if you really think so...

but in the middle i think you're excusing by doing a drawing to get her laughing... it's funny and everything and it will get you a conversation but believe me she'll be a lot more into you if come out honest, open and lead her into beautiful emotions.
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and tell her that her beauty has inspired your to higher arts

Author:  Kurent [ Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:54 pm ]
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Don't forget to cite Ross Jefferies on that one. Its called the Crappy Sketch Artist.

Usually when (or if) I do it, I will draw the girl with HUGE boobs (for laughs) and title it "Semi Pretty Girl in (instert location)" Sign it with a flourish then hand it to her.

Author:  spiderman1 [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:29 am ]
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haha funny shit
anyone got any good openers ?? let me know

Author:  Monkey [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:35 am ]
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anyone got any good openers ??
I like "Hi, I'm Monkey."

Author:  sorin [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:26 pm ]
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I got a better one:
I like you. I want to get to know you.

It's not just an opener though...
If you just say the words it will not work as powerful as conveying real interest and strong characteristics as well.

Author:  Monkey [ Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:54 am ]
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Not better; just different.

She already knows that you are interested in talking to her; you've approached her. An SOI, even one as sincere and seemingly innocent as that, can get you blown out of a set right away if you don't have your conversational jujitsu down.

See, Sorin advocates a very good, solid technique for establishing quick rapport and immediate emotional connection. But it is risky, and it requires skills that a lot of newcommers simply don't have. To begin with, we all start with the bad routines and the canned openers; it's how we learn what works, what doesn't, and how to come up with our own stuff. If used as conversational crutches, these things will eventually kill your game, but they're a good place to start off if you're just starting out.

Anyone can introduce himself. I could walk up to a hundred people today and shake one hundred hands, and say to each of them "Hi. I'm Monkey." And each and every one of those people would remember me, because I had walked up to them and introduced myself. That takes guts all by itself. It breaks the social norm of "Don't talk to strangers," and the breaking of social norms gets people thinking.

Even with Sorin's "I like you. I'd like to get to know you," opener, what comes AFTER you've opened the set is what is really important. For one thing, I don't actually know that I like these people. I find them attractive physically, certainly, but do I like them? Not really. Not YET. And so to declare it at the beginning of a conversation would in fact be counterproductive for me. As much as I WANT to learn to like you, I don't yet, and so if I say that I do, I'll be lying. "I like you. You seem like nice people," is a line I use in way of SOI as my first relate/reward cycle. It's a line for escalation, not for opening.

To walk up to someone and state "I'd like to get to know you," at the beginning of the conversation may be more generally applicable, but it doesn't really reduce how creepy it comes off at first. If someone were to walk up to me with a gigantic smile and say "I'd like to get to know you," I'd likely walk away without saying anything. If they were to walk up to me and say "Hi, I'm Kate," I'm more likely to wait and see what they have to say.

I'm sure your method is working for you, Sorin, but it's pretty advanced for a group that seems composed mostly of newcomers to pickup. We can't be afraid to take baby steps in our paths to game-betterment. Canned openers, routines and the like are the first step on the road; you're sitting at the first crossroad waiting for everyone else to catch up.

You rabbit, you. :wink:

Author:  Alex [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:28 pm ]
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Good point Monkey, i like your opener!!

Author:  dorian [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:25 pm ]
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some good posts here. I have a truly cheesy opener but if you smile enough you can pull it off.

"Hi, do you know where can I find nickelodeon street?"
It is just funny if you do it right, and you can jump into any conversation afterwards since she is already laughing. I heard this opener from a friend of mine who is quite good at talking to randome girls anywhere.

Author:  Zenit [ Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:23 am ]
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i have worked a long time with the " hi i want to know you approach" i think the good and bad part of it, is that being so direct, and showing so much your interest, it would work only on girls who are interested in you already. If they are they will admire the courage to go directly there and tell them while others don`t dare. I would use it with a total frontal attack looking at the eyes of the target. As you see all that breaks every rule from MM. Anyway it works if you act C&F and maintain your confidence.
It that would be war, that would be like assaulting the enemy trenches with a frontal assault, either you overcome the enemy by mere excess of force or you die at the first bullet.

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