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Author:  Jpgotem [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Girl at the deli, approach help.
Ok, heres my situation.

Theres this HB that works at the deli around the corner from my house. I have gone there about 5 times now. and i havent been able to break AA. only thing ive said was "thanks"(ill get some gum or something and jus say thanks after i pay). the thing is i know who this girl is, she went to school with my brother, shes 18 and im 17. and not to mention her younger sister was in my class in grammer school.

ok so heres day 1 that i enter the store, i ask her how much the tic tacs are, she says "i think its like right on the box" almost as if she was ready to start crackin up. i didnt think much of that.

the second time i go in bout 2 days later, she was quick to ask me "can i help you" as i was lookin at the food. then i said "yeah let me get an order of chicken parm". she asked me if i want bread with it and then she asked me if it was to stay(LOL u cant even sit and eat there... there arent even any chairs...)i was about to laugh, but i didnt cuz i think she was nervous, so i was like "nah to go"(LOL). then when it came time to pay, it cost 10.77, i gave her 11 bucks, she acted like she put the 11 bucks in the register, but gave me the 11 bucks right back PLUS 50 cents. as she did this she had her head down looking at the register like she was hiding her face. now me thinkin that might have been an IOI(indicator of interest), my eyes are set on gettin this girl.

so i planned on goin in and talkin to her, not so easy.. which brings me to my problem. i planned on opening up with buying something, then saying "Your christine's sister right?", then she would say yes (obviously), then i would say "yeah i remember u from grammer school" and then just wing it from there.

now comes the reality. i walk in, theres too many people there, i couldnt do it, but i was determined. i went and acted like i was looking for something to get, but really just stalling for it to clear out a bit. then i went to buy, and she looked at me and immediately came to my service, before anyone else, shes done this before, alot. and she said that it cost 50 cents, i gave her the 50 cents, but i jus couldnt say more after that... its too wierd, cuz shes working, and her co-workers who are much older, are right near her, it seems impossible to talk to her wen shes at work.

please. someone give me some way to approach her without making her feel wierd cuz shes at work.
Author:  Slipfinger [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:30 pm ]
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Okay lets go back a few mins she asked you if you wanted it to stay or go right? Instead of saying to go why on earth did'nt you start to look around the store or what ever and then back to her..and said something like; Well get me somewhere to sit and ill have to stay :P

Well lets not cry over spilled milk shall we?

Okay so its obvious you probably make her nervous, right? work with that start by asking yourself a series of questions..why is she nervous? are you doing something which could put her in this hot spot? has she giving you any signs of attraction, and a big nono is starting talking about something as dumb as grammer school, goddam people that started talking to me when I am anywhere about shit that I did with them when I was a kid freak me out big time, how the fuck do they remember this? easy mate because they must be intressted..and projecting to much intresst at start can easily scare a girl away, let me give you an example.

there was this chick a hb 8 with boobs made for a god, okay so she met this guy at a party, kissed him and fooled aroud with him right? there is nothing more to taht just someone she met at a party and played with to make the evening more enjoyable..so she gave him her digits..a week later she meets someone else that she dates for 3 years, while beeing with this other guy she recives sms and even x mas cards from the guy she made out with once? Okay clearly this guy is showing way to much intresst and projecting neediness:P her new bf does nothing along that way what does the new guy do? well he plays it smart, they fight over some stupid shit and she starts acting like a brat, what does the guy do ? Simple he points at the door, and says

SF: Hey there's the door if you dont like.



((if you never guessed it I am the one she dated for 3 years, got knocked up with made an abortion, well the works.))

What I am trying to say is dont start talking about history, create something new, more intressting and improved, I cant tell you what to say..You aint me I roll diffrantly, and my shit simple would'nt work for you.

So get something fresh going, she obviously recongnizes you, try this say, hey I recongnize you from somewhere, it freaks me out I just cant figure out from where!! If she plays around she'll probably reply ; Yeah I recongnize you too!! Now your in spit some game and play with that. On the other hand she could say well yeah grammer school bla bla which is great aswell here you get several choices, either you neg her for even remember something like that (asuming that was ages ago?) or you go like : yeah thats it omg how do you even remember that?! then roll with that.

Hope any of this helps you figure out how to do stuff your way, what ever happends you will learn something and improve yourself.

SF
Author:  Jpgotem [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:47 pm ]
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thanks man u probly saved me from mentioning grammer school lol
Author:  Jpgotem [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:28 am ]
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YEA, and another problem is the fact that i have to wait online to get something, and that completely ruins the 3 sec rule, and gives plenty of time for me to fuckin get nervous.
Author:  Romeo7 [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:48 pm ]
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Ok
I'll give you some help
ok son? But if you don't do as I tell you, forget it, I won't help you at all
So do as I tell you, and you'll be kissing this girl whithin two days

If it is as you describe, then she IS already interested/attracted/curious about you, therefore move on to two things: Prizability, comfort and closing

1. Get over the idea of "People is looking"

Do you aspire to be a great PUA? Do you want to find a gorgeus woman? Then forget about who is looking at who, because people WILL be looking, that's a FACT

Not only the fact that people is looking should motivate you even more, but it also adds to the attraction she will feel inside you... I've approached dozens of girls right in front of her co-workers... Buddy, you'll make her day

So, just do it

2. Say exactly these same lines
YOU:Hey, what time are you getting off?
SHE:Mhhm at "whatever time she says"
YOU:Uhh Im not waiting for you that long!
SHE:(she laughs)
YOU:Look, I wanna see you outside work, do you have an email?
SHE:Yes/No
(If yes, SAY 'write it down for me [obviously you ALWAYS carrry a pen n paper with you] and as she writes down your email, say write down your number too)
(If no, She will look for an excuse so you get her number, like "yeah but i dont use it much, i have a myspace though" or something like that, you just say 'ok, then write down your number')
You'll be surprised how fast she'll do it
YOU: Cool, Ill call you sometime tomorrow, bye

3. Chit chat for a lil bit over the phone, just call her
no emails, no txts, just call her
Use my conversation on boyfriend destroyer
(even though she may not have one) to create sexual tension, to DHV and to show that you get it (yup, you can do this over the phone)

bf-destroyer-vt3615.html?highlight=destroyer

So you dont mess up Ill give it to you in a better way

PUA: Let me ask you something, Look at me, and tell me, do you think I would make a good boyfriend?

HB: Yes/I don't know/ Maybe

PUA: You see, I bet you your boyfriend (if she doesn't a bf, say a "regular boyfriend) is like the greatest boyfriend in the world, he probably calls you 15 times a day to make sure you're ok, to see where you are and with who, buys you roses and chocolates.

HB: I dont even have a boyfriend! (or if she does she'll tell you)

PUA: You guys probably make a great couple, and with no doubt will be married in a couple of months and have handsome kids

HB: I'm not even thinking of marriage

**** ALL OF THAT WAS TO DEVALUATE HER BOYFRIEND'S IMAGE****

**** BUT IT KEEPS GOING *******

PUA: Anyway, getting back to my question,I think i would make a terrible boyfriend

HB: Why you say that?

PUA: I wouldn't call my girlfriend 15 times a day, I would call her 20 (isn't that sweet) *** she laughs**** ok, 21.... Then I would make fun of her friends and have her cook for me, and finally I would break up with her on Valentine's day

**** ALL PLAYFUL TONE BUDDY *****

HB: HAHAHAH, you're so mean

PUA: Yes, I am

***** HERE COMES THE TRANSITION TO SEDUCTION *****

PUA: Ok, so when are YOU taking me out?

HB: (Girls usually say something like) "you mean, when are you taking ME out?" or "i thought the guy was supposed to take the girl out"

PUA: (You can go C&F here) That's old school, what are you my grandma?

HB: (they laugh)

PUA: I tell you what, meet me in this place at this time (watever your choice is) cool?

HB: Ok

Blah blah

4. Game her, tease her, keep it a challenge, and then comfort her, then close her, kiss close to start

Ok, done

Youre on your route to get laid

any questions?
Author:  Jpgotem [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:57 am ]
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fuckin awesome man, but i verified that she has a BF, because i asked my friend who knows her
Author:  Romeo7 [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:34 am ]
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Just go on and seduce
if she gets nervous around another guy (in this case, you)
that means her boyfriend doesn't satisfy her enough
Author:  Jpgotem [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:34 am ]
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Tomorow imma do this, wish me luck.

o and i went in today, i had a wife beater on, i jus wanted some lunch, this was before i saw this post, and when i was in there, i caught her staring at my pecs(chest). then she looked away real quick.
Author:  Augustus [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:16 pm ]
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I know Ive said this in another topic but I would recommend the Collision Opener. Its a generic, easily calibrated opener. I like it alot because it isn't venue specific like many out there.
EDIT* I would take the stare as a sign of physical attraction, a very good starting IOI! I think you should go forward with this if the boyfriend turns out to be a false. Personally I would try to get in the set, build comfort and whatnot and ask about her lovelife her current BF etc. If she reveals to you his shortcoming work hard to satisfy these and/or make a story where you demonstrate the qualities she is looking for. Kill two birds with one stone.
Author:  Jpgotem [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:52 pm ]
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Could u verify the Collision opener, im not familiar with it.
Author:  Augustus [ Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:00 pm ]
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I dont know the words exactly but you bump into them they will apologize you apologize aswell and continue to say something like "Someone as beautiful as yourself would stop me regardless of whether or not we walked into eachother".
The exact words are on Fast Seduction.
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