PUA Forum
https://pick-up-artist-forum.com/

EPIPHANY (also new sn, this is VJ7)
https://pick-up-artist-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=45240
Page 1 of 1

Author:  ArtificialNatural [ Sun May 17, 2009 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  EPIPHANY (also new sn, this is VJ7)

This is vj7pua, and I made a more fitting screen name. I'm a bit tipsy so forgive typos.

Here's my epiphany. Mystery and David D have always talked about thinking you are the prize, and framing things that way, etc. While this is clearly what you should do, I had a thought just recently that put into perspective why that shit works so well.

For someone who is an objectivist, rather than a relativist (who believes there are no absolute truths in reality), I believe that there is a real truth that provides success to a PUA's frame. It's not just about "thinking" or "framing" your reality into existence, it's about having a mental frame that accurately represents TRUTH.

And here's the truth. Plain and simple.

Men, especially those who understand the needs of their female counterparts, are the prize. It's not just a frame or a mindset that you have to take on - the reason it works is because it's the truth!

Men who understand women are equally (if not more) valuable than women who have smoking bodies and gorgeous faces! We are a rarity.

I know a lot of you are probably nodding your heads going "yeah, no shit dude," but for a guy like me (and I think other PUAs who've been into this shit for a while), this realization is really quite profound.

Before, I always thought I had to model my frame in order to manipulate the world into giving me what I wanted. This mindset was unproductive, because it assumes that you inherently have no value, and that your mind controls your reality. To an extent, the latter portion of that last sentence is true; however, it is when your mental framework most accurately represents the reality that already is that you will achieve the best results.

Clearly, if you wake up one day and believe wholeheartedly that women will be attracted to you if you wear a clown suit, and your confidence in this idea is 100% unshakable, you're still not going to hit up a bar looking like Bozo and go home with a dime.

Perhaps this is nothing but a technical point, but for a ponderer like myself it's rather significant: Reality exists, independent of you. And in order to get the most benefit out of it, you should accept it for what it is.

And the reality is this. Women need men, perhaps moreso than we need them.

Society has been structured recently to compensate for women's insecurities regarding this. But these men-realted insecurities are well-founded. Some might call this opinion misogynistic, but it seems to me to accurately represent what is true.

Women need men to fight off "creepers" who want to do them harm. Although it's not AS true anymore, women need men to provide resources. For the most part, we're better at working. Call me Conservative, but I believe the "wage gap" exists for a reason - because men work harder on the whole. But I digress.

The point here is this. There are a lot of men who can bring home the bacon. There are also a lot of emotional pansy men who can make girls feel good about themselves and connect with them emotionally. There are VERY few men who can do both.

But you and I can. Although it might not seem that way because of who PUAs generally associate ourselves with, this inherent value is more rare than you can possibly imagine.

I've tried to expose soooo sooo many of my AFC friends to PUA material. And most of the time they reject it outright. Most guys simply aren't cognitively or emotionally capable of accepting the realities surrounding women. Even if they're shown what we've been shown!

Therefore, the prize is us. We are the ones who have seen the light and embraced it. We are the (self-)chosen few.

Know this in your actions. Believe it because it is TRUE... not simply because you know that believing it will yield good results. Living your life believing things b/c of the outcome it brings you, as opposed to believing them b/c of their truthfulness, will lead to a life that equates to nothing more than eternally acting a part in a movie.

I'm a very good actor, as I'm sure most of you are, but I am far, far better at acting with true conviction - when my thoughts are closest to what's real.

This might not be new info for some, but for me this realization makes all the difference in the world.

Author:  870 [ Sun May 17, 2009 3:17 pm ]
Post subject: 

Since this advice doesn't specifically apply to relationships, I moved this thread to the Lounge. Please post in the appropriate sections.

Also, you didn't have to make a new account. You can just change the name of your old account by clicking on the "My Profile" link in the black toolbar at the top of the page.

Your boy,
870

Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/