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Author:  David~ [ Fri May 08, 2009 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Day Game: Thoughts and Analysis
-Women are more compliant when you day game. Today I was finally exposed to how easy and successful you can be during day game. SNL is more difficult, but building something substantial is easier.

-Women's ASD are lowered. Because the mall and any other day game sarging spots are so STALE, they are less threatened and ASD and their bitch shield is lowered.

-The walk towards your set is more important than the actual opener. Confident body posture and a slow, relaxed walk.

-Keep an eye out for women that glance at you.
Here's the glance system.


1 glance at you = Looks at you out of curiosity.
2 glances = Confirmation that she is checking you out.
3 glances = Eye fuck.

These will be your highest chance of success during the day. THEY WANT TO GET TO KNOW YOU.

- After opening, it's best to transition into rapport with a sexual frame. This raises BT. Kino is a must.

-How you look, does not fucking matter. Girls are so bored they are willing to talk to anyone. They are too shy to do anything about this. This is your move.

-If a girl is a total bitch or just weird from the opening, something is wrong with her. This is not your fault. She has weird mental disorders because we were all programmed from birth to smile or show respect to someone when talking. Eject Immediately.
Author:  Fin [ Fri May 08, 2009 9:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Day Game: Thoughts and Analysis
Quote:
-Women are more compliant when you day game. Today I was finally exposed to how easy and successful you can be during day game. SNL is more difficult, but building something substantial is easier.

-Women's ASD are lowered. Because the mall and any other day game sarging spots are so STALE, they are less threatened and ASD and their bitch shield is lowered.

-The walk towards your set is more important than the actual opener. Confident body posture and a slow, relaxed walk.

-Keep an eye out for women that glance at you.
Here's the glance system.


1 glance at you = Looks at you out of curiosity.
2 glances = Confirmation that she is checking you out.
3 glances = Eye fuck.

These will be your highest chance of success during the day. THEY WANT TO GET TO KNOW YOU.

- After opening, it's best to transition into rapport with a sexual frame. This raises BT. Kino is a must.

-How you look, does not fucking matter. Girls are so bored they are willing to talk to anyone. They are too shy to do anything about this. This is your move.

-If a girl is a total bitch or just weird from the opening, something is wrong with her. This is not your fault. She has weird mental disorders because we were all programmed from birth to smile or show respect to someone when talking. Eject Immediately.
Thats pretty much how I approach day game, although I'm more likely to spend a while trying get a bad set good, and I'm happy to approach sets that haven't checked me out, some sets will generally not notice you at times.

However I find that night game, people are in a more social mood and are more willing to "hook up". But that's just my findings, your thoughts besch?
Author:  David~ [ Fri May 08, 2009 9:21 am ]
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Night game takes place in emotionally charged enviornments.

People use booze as an excuse to fuck on the spot.

More ASD, more bitch shied, but bigger rewards. SNL is very possible at night game.

In the clubs, for girls it's one big popularity contest. Which girl can reject the most guys, and fuck the best guys. For the hot ones at least.

Girls going to a club/bar on a Sunday/Monday/Tuesday night are probably looking for a fuck, not fun.

Sat/Fri have more people because they are the ones looking for fun.

Kino is critical. Kino from opening to end. Raise BT by leaving sets, and going back. BT by leaving her hanging, or dancing with your targets best friend for a little bit.

Anchor kisses. Whether it's whenever you two go to the bathroom, or grab a drink. Your choice. This builds more BT. It's a form of fractionation.

You must reek confidence.
Author:  R.G. [ Sat May 09, 2009 9:18 pm ]
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Great info buddy.
Quote:
-If a girl is a total bitch or just weird from the opening, something is wrong with her. This is not your fault.
That's the only thing I'd disagree with. I like Neil Strauss' approach to it in the Annihilation method. He says anything that goes wrong, is ALL YOUR FAULT. This is awesome because you're not passing the buck, and you can't control or change someone else directly - you can only change yourself, so this mentality gives you ultimate power. If you say that any form of failed set is 'not your fault', you are subconsciously giving your power away.

Having said that, yes, many times girls in daygame randomly blow me out before I even start a proper opener. You cannot control for girls on a bad day, or if something bad just happened to them so they're in a bad mood etc. But it IS your job to roll with this, adapt, and use it to your advantage. This reminds me of a Starbucks set a few months ago where a HB7 was working on her laptop. I approached with a dating for dummies book and did a funny opener, opening by acting really retarded and nervous and saying that her eyes looked beautiful, slowly (this wasn't actually in the book but I found it funny). She replied by complimenting me back (much to my surprise), but the rest of the set she was being a total 'bitch'. I think this was partially due to the fact that I sat too early and then my wing came back from his set and joined with too much energy. Anyway, the point is, we kept reframing her bitchiness as a funny aspect of her personality. Example:

HB7: 'So...are you guys going to leave me a lone now...'
Wing: 'Haha, you see, it's that shield of yours coming back again. Are you always like this?'

It's almost as if she's fired momentum at you, and instead of being on the recieving end of that energy, you reverse it so that you are on the same side as her. Weird shit, and it works.

My refined technique for daygame is, in the words of comparethemeerkat.com, SIMPLES!:

1. Approach a HB who is not on a mission
2. Spend AGES in set
3. Set up day 2 (Number close as a means to this end, not an end in itself).

There's no gold medallion waiting at the end of an under-5-min number close for you. I never really followed Mystery's 7 hour rule etc, but hell his 25 min rule for these sets are definately a trick.
Author:  Cock_roach [ Sun May 10, 2009 4:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Day Game: Thoughts and Analysis
Quote:
Here's the glance system.


1 glance at you = Looks at you out of curiosity.
2 glances = Confirmation that she is checking you out.
3 glances = Eye fuck.

These will be your highest chance of success during the day. THEY WANT TO GET TO KNOW YOU.
What is more, it's your moral commitment that you react to this. I've read yesterday, only one male of 31 can read women's body language and recognize sexual signals.

Most women want to get acquainted with a man who appreciates her effort to be sexy and, when sending sexual signals, she expects you to take game. Otherwise, she considers you as:
1) fatal enchanted by other girl,
2) gay
3) total BAFC
Author:  Maf-PbC [ Tue May 12, 2009 5:41 pm ]
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So true roach


I could literally film a show for national geographic seeing this shit soo much...showing your 1up by how you interact with them is all it takes in day game.

I see chicks that will be overly obvious about intentions, guys just miss it. Its a sin yes but it just makes things easier for those with the know-how right?

Always think too, wtf do you have to lose? Shes showing obvious interest, only way you cant get it is if you do not make a damn attempt.
Author:  expat_of_love [ Tue May 12, 2009 8:35 pm ]
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Roach...

The game in Warsaw is different. If you have a navy blue passport you will get ANYTHING you want in any part of Poland. I know from first hand experience. Gorgeous girls. Nothing like Western Europe or America, but this stuff has nothing to do with Poland. American men are next to Jesus in Poland. Lots of cheap flights right now from Chicago to Warsaw via LOT Airlines.

The Polish female is TOTALLY different than the American female. Feminism never was allowed to enter Poland. That was one of the few great things about Communism. Add to the fact that Poland is THE most Catholic country on earth and you are talking about a very unique society. Plus, the club scene is different. Most of the girls in Warsaw clubs would not "legally" be allowed in American clubs. The age of the girls who go out is MUCH younger. I won't even mention the fact that Polish girls get married MUCH MUCH younger than American broads. So a 19 year old girl is thinking along different lines.
Author:  Mr E [ Tue May 12, 2009 10:09 pm ]
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Hi
day game is something I really want to develop my skills in. I am over thinking the whole thing and getting myself into some knots over it. I am building up my anxiety into something the size of king kong.
anway,,,
I have just started reading awaken the giant and the formula for success is getting into action on a massive scale-

I have approached occasionally during the day and have had no success, have to admit.
Today I was trying to work out a game plan that would permit me to get through the initial first awkward moments as you start to talk to a hot babe.

I really liked a video of Adam Lyons, where he walks up to a girl and says something along the lines of "sorry, but I just saw you and didn't want to walk past without saying that you look interesting...and it is a really rare quality these days, blah blah,,"

anyway, needless to say, he gets the close in under 3 mins.

I suppose really it doesn't matter much the approach. What counts is the vibe you are projecting and how you handle yourself.
Author:  callmecaptain [ Wed May 13, 2009 6:54 am ]
Post subject: 
A few things:

1) I fucking love this forum

2) I've been needing to read a thread like this for a while.

3)
Quote:
-Keep an eye out for women that glance at you.
Here's the glance system.


1 glance at you = Looks at you out of curiosity.
2 glances = Confirmation that she is checking you out.
3 glances = Eye fuck.
Besch, i get the impression you're figuring out some really cool stuff. Your past couple posts have been very helpful to me. Please keep the knowledge coming.
Quote:
I know from first hand experience. Gorgeous girls. Nothing like Western Europe or America, but this stuff has nothing to do with Poland. American men are next to Jesus in Poland
Expat, what if you're a brown guy with a blue passport? Are they as receptive to Americans with different ethnic backgrounds? If so anyone wanna go sarge Poland with me?


Word to everyone who posted on this thread

CPT
Author:  Fin [ Wed May 13, 2009 9:31 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Feminism never was allowed to enter Poland. That was one of the few great things about Communism.



FUCK THAT!

Get your attitudes sorted.
Author:  David~ [ Wed May 13, 2009 12:05 pm ]
Post subject: 
When you approach and open don't break eye contact. And it's not what you say to her, it's how you say it.

I'm noticing if I go direct, I must keep a loud, flat, voice that shows disinterest, and project a shitload of confidence.

"Hey, Hey, You! Yeah, Hey listen, (pause) I think you two are absolutely adorable. (pause) I just had to meet you. (make eyecontact don't break it) Oh yeah my name is David by the way"

Some stupid shit like that will work. Loud booming voice. Don't be nasally, use the back of your throat.

Also, when you place her in the role of being adorable, she has to play the role. Don't ever let her/them forget this. Always banter using the role you want her to play. "Dawwww, look at those big teddy bear cheeks".

Daygame is usually to get you amp'd up and in state for your night game, BUT some people do like to mallgame and escalate there for kicks.

So daygame for 2 hours, get as many numbers as you can, and get them going to the same venue as you during the night. It's been my lairs routine.
Author:  Blue Dre [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:22 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Roach...

The game in Warsaw is different. If you have a navy blue passport you will get ANYTHING you want in any part of Poland. I know from first hand experience. Gorgeous girls. Nothing like Western Europe or America, but this stuff has nothing to do with Poland. American men are next to Jesus in Poland. Lots of cheap flights right now from Chicago to Warsaw via LOT Airlines.

The Polish female is TOTALLY different than the American female. Feminism never was allowed to enter Poland. That was one of the few great things about Communism. Add to the fact that Poland is THE most Catholic country on earth and you are talking about a very unique society. Plus, the club scene is different. Most of the girls in Warsaw clubs would not "legally" be allowed in American clubs. The age of the girls who go out is MUCH younger. I won't even mention the fact that Polish girls get married MUCH MUCH younger than American broads. So a 19 year old girl is thinking along different lines.
Man I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Every summer I got to Macedonia for two months. IT IS THE SAME (except it's an orthodox country). There is absolutely NO FEMINISM there at all. People marry younger, and there are underaged girls in clubs. Americans are loved over there (ehh for the most part). Right away they think "Oh this guy must have a lot of money and great style..."

I'm pretty sure some more direct gaming would work very great in countries like these. I know I can say that because I've been there myself. I know for a fact that day game would work really good (depending on how much energy you bring in) in these countries because the girls are shy (but sexual demons on the inside).

Bottom line extended (but not creepy) EC with an HB will clearly send the message.
Author:  cunning linguist [ Thu May 14, 2009 10:24 am ]
Post subject: 
Great thread!

Without diverting too much from the topic - I agree with Besch. In my opinion and experiences, HBs do not walk up to a guy. That's why I agree that reading body language is one of the good things you can have going for you, more so for day game than anything else.

Its a timely reminder for me at least, coz lately I've gamed mostly at night and will find it refreshing to work with another dynamic.

Note to self - stop sarging on the same days/at the same times/same location.
Author:  leedrag0n [ Thu May 14, 2009 11:39 am ]
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Good thread indeed.

Here are a few of my insights on day gaming, and gaming as well in general :

1. Even a positive bodylanguage from a chick is NOT a guarantee for a lay. The bottom line of gaming is whether or not you can arouse her sexually. When you do, they'll fuck you, when you don't - they won't.

2. Based on the previous one - you should focus around YOUR game. Women are emotional creatures, if you want them to do something you can do it in many ways, but a sure way that works is to get them into an emotional state where such "something" will just come out of her naturally. So , if you wanna get her attention - get her curioused, or challenged. If you want to fuck her, arouse her sexually.

3. Value game is a misconcepted area of gaming. Its based on social dynamics, not influence. Based on the previous two you should now know women only react according to the emotional states you put them into. If you can't understand this core concept, you'll never be a Pick up artist.

And yeah i do agree daygaming is easier.

Much more lone women, so easier to get their attention and move them.
They are bored, so you come up as something attractive for them much more than the ordinary boring stuff they do.

And it is possible to SNL them in daygame, all you gotta do is just try.

-- leedrag0n
Author:  veryEnglish87 [ Thu May 14, 2009 8:20 pm ]
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Always like to read a thread about day game.

I am a big fan of day game, I like being able to talk to HBs without a lot of background noise, and there are more 1-2 sets. The big problem is that most HBs out during the day are out doing something, i.e. at work, shopping, etc. (Ok, this doesn't go for college chicks, but for the older HBs or the employed). This gives things a different dynamic. During night-game HBs are expecting to be approached and sets are normally easier to open. During the day opening is much more important in my opinion because you have to quickly justify interrupting a girls plans.

I still haven't got this quite sorted but I find you have to either be ultra-subtle or ultra-direct. A lot of openers don't seem to translate to day-game so I find I have to match my approach to my state of mind on the day.
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