Time to go thru the mailbag and see what we're learning this week at LVo3.com...
First up...
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HOW TO HELP FRIENDS HELP THEMSELVES
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hi sean,
where should i start...first, sory for my bad english, its not my first language, i think is my last...
i must admit i would love to come to psp seminar (even pay full price), but 8-10 may im producing an event here in slovenia (eli buren - deida's asistant is coming)...and im not able to come to psp to amsterdam...
my story, how i came acros you...
i started with seduction community, mystery...i tried for 2 years...strugling...my worst 2 years ever...i was stresed, in fear...and behaved like a jerk...i felt i was a fake...a felt realy horible...and i knew deep down inside, there must be something more to dating and seduction...
then last year i was on DD seminar man transformation...before seminar i already sensed that there is something that im blocking in me...and i was curious how can i show my sensytive side but masculine way...and duirng the break on seminar i asked david how can or what can i do, with that feeling of mine that im blocking something in me...i got the answer...but was no totaly satisfied with it...i knew there si something more and behind it...
when i came home from teh seminar, a young guy contacted me...he ofered help...i wanted to do seduction and dating busines and he ofered help...we meet...he is 20 years old...im 30...and on that meeting he kind of opened my eyes...
he bring me the answer to my question...i knew there is something more to pick-up than those crazy rotuines, lines and fake persona and games, stupid magic tricks...real natural, sencire way/game...he talked about zan perrion and geuss who, yes, he also talked about sean messenger...
he and i conected...right away...
interestingly, a month from dd seminar i was going to deida intesive...7 days...
well, i was blown away...that was REAL shift for me...REAL SHIFT...i find out i was castrated...i gave my balls away...and emotionaly castrated...i was pushing down things that needed to come out...arrrrrhhhhh...
that was last year in may...and since then my life changed...for real...im a whole person again...a MAN...in that is awsome feeling...
and here you come into the picture...im interested what you teach, well i kind of know, from you audio and youtube videos...but i want seminar...unfortunatly i cant come to amsterdam...maybe next one in europe...
or maybe, i dont remember where did i noticed that you where in croatia once...slovenia is near croatia...did you travel through slovenia?...
so, im inviting you if you will plan someday in the future to travel through slovenia, to stop for a "drink"...
i wish you all the best...
and thanks for your awsome work...
bye
P, Slovenia
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Peter,
Thank you for the kind words. I went through a weekend with Deida that significantly changed my path as well, and I'm forever grateful to him for helping guide me on the path I've found.
I am sorry to hear you can't come to the Amsterdam event, but I have two ideas that may be perfect.
1. I will be travelling Central Europe this summer (my family is from Poland and Austria), and I plan on teaching my one-hour PSP Fundamentals class everywhere I can along the way. If you can help me promote it (it's a free event open to men and women), I would love to do it in Slovenia.
2. Please accept this free copy of my podclass "Cut the Bullshit" for you and your friend, and please share it with anyone you meet who found the community, and has been disappointed in what they found, and are looking for a different path.
http://lvo3-ucp-ultimatecoachingprogram ... llshit.mp3
Love,
Sean
P.S. (btw, if you want to bring the free "PSP Fundamentals" class to your town, just email us at support@lvo3.com and we'll see if my gypsy travels bring me there with your help getting asses in seats.)
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HOW DO I GET HER ALONE?
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Hi Sean,
so, as we go through my areas of hangups (like, all areas), and you continue to give highly useful and applicable advice, here's one I don't have anything good for: how to get her to go home the same night. I think I'm comfortable with the 'day 2' or just the normal end of a date. But if this is on the same day as meeting her, or under time pressure, I shut down.
I remembered you talking about checking with her group of friends. The 1 (one) time I actually ended up at home with a girl I'd just met that day, I did check with her friends ("Is it cool with you guys if I borrow her and we hang out somewhere else"), after she had said yes. This was after a whole wedding though, so plenty of time. What if you have only a relatively short time, say you meet at 1:30am and the bar is closing at 2am? What is a good, acceptable but confident thing to suggest "let's hang out at my place"? Which amounts to, making the first actual overtly sexual move.
To give you another, real example, one time last October, we were hanging out in a group of friends. One girl was into me, and pretty explicit about being interested in some way. It was also clear that she would have to me leaving on the 5:30am train. (In fact I convinced her to wait for the 6:30am instead of taking the 11:30pm train.) This was in Germany and I was leaving for Texas again. So basically, this was our one chance. The group left the bar at around 3am and wanted to go to a club. The only chance to get anything done would have been to suggest to her after leaving the bar to go to my hotel room, and she would leave at 6am. That is, frankly, a bold move I don't have in my repertoire, and I'm interested in how you would do it.
Thanks! And best from frosty Germany,
L, Germany
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L,
Guten abend! not sure if it works this way in Germany, but here's what I've always found works everywhere else that's not like an episode of "Sprockets."
Just tell her "let's get out of here."
That's it. No explanation. No story. No lie. Just, "let's get out of here."
It's the most popular line in movie history. Know why? It says everything you need to say. And she'll know what it means. It means that you are confident enough to know it's all good.
Saying that is the only hard part. After that, you'll find your way where to go, and don't stress it. Sometimes the girl just isn't ready to go to your place. Sometimes she is. Whatever. The important thing is that you take the chance to make it possible.
Love is the Answer.
Sean
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HOW DO I STAY OUT OF "DA DREADED FRIEND ZONE?"
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Hey Sean,
Luckily I already had the chance to exchange a few words with you over at SeductionDatabase. My name there is ledAstray and yes, I just added you at Facebook
I told you whenever I could how much I appreciate your effort and generosity, so for now I just want to say: thank you!
The reason I'm writing you is because you are the first Master of Seduction (since you don't like the word Pickup Artist that much
I seriously considered investing money in. Which I will do, once I am done moving and managed the transition to University.Anyway, here's the thing. In case you want to put this into an email, I'm going to write it in a quotable style.
Hey Sean,
Thanks for all your effort! You are my hero!
Ever since I got into the dating community I felt a bit odd about what these guys wanted me to be. I was raised to be polite, to treat other people nicely etc. I basically was the perfect son-in-law ever since. The downside to this style of education is that I was never taught that I deserve to be respected as much as everybody else. Therefore I often did people favors without getting much back. Regarding woman I was told to be nice to them so they will like me. As you can imagine it didn't quite work out.
To me it was obvious that I had to change something. I never felt comfortably with turning from a nice guy to a jackass that has to insult girls in order to stand above them. Deep down I always wanted to keep being a nice person because I like to give, I really do. Giving something to somebody and seeing that they really appreciate means a lot to me. What I don't want is being used, getting abused and people losing their respect for me.
So here's my question: how can I attract women or maintain attraction while being a good listener, sharing feelings, fears and problems with her at the same time WITHOUT being put in the friend zone? I mean, shouldn't that be the foundation of a good relationship after all?
Thanks a lot!
Cheers,
F
PS: Sorry bro, my messages tend to get quite a bit long
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Great question.
How can you ATTRACT women without being a complete JACKASS?
God knows there are enough resources out there to help you act like the "bad boy" that they tell you all women crave. Shit like "be alpha and dominate the conversation," "never ask questions," or my favorite, and possibly the most fucked-up thing I've ever heard, "make the ho say no."
I've done all that shit. Hell, I've done it and way worse. In fact, I can lay claim the most jackass, alpha, fucked up thing I think any man has ever said to a woman to show how totally "manly" he is.
Long ago, I was with a girl at a party. She was super-cute. She was flirting with me. She liked me. And I think I liked her.
But I damn sure didn't like myself. I couldn't actually trust that this girl might just like me the way I was, and when I saw other guys talking to her, I got real dark and real bitter, and decided I had to do something to show her that I was the MAN.
You know what I said?
"Dance with me or I'll smack you."
How fucked up is that? I mean, how rude, mean, angry, and misguided? I'm no Ike Turner. I've never hit a woman, and unless some chick tried to pull a Lorena Bobbit and hack off my Johnson in my sleep, I trust I never will. But I had this wicked dangerous attitude that somehow girls were keeping the pussy from me, like some battle of the sexes was raging, and she was just gonna torture me and tease me and in the end leave me high and dry for some better-looking, more-money, cooler-car douchebag, and I just couldn't take it any more.
So I tried being a complete asshole for a while. I would insult girls, ignore them, pretend I was teasing but really just look to prove that I was always smarter and cooler than they were, and fuck them, I didn't need them anyways, so let them chase me.
Sometimes it worked. Sometimes I would run into a girl (usually a stripper) who had been so beaten down and who's sense of self-worth was so low that the only attention that made her feel comfortable was negative attention.
Yep, acting like an asshole does get you girls. It gets you girls who act like total... C U Next Tuesdays.
Fortuntately, I'm wicked stubborn. So when I saw that this common wisdom wasn't working, I changed it up. First, I got my shit together. I identified the things in my life that weren't making me happy, and changed 'em. Cos as I got my head out of my ass and looked around, I noticed that people with good lives, people with happy lives, people who smiled and were kind to people and laughed a lot and generally had a good time all the time... well, those people were always dating people who were the same way.
Girls who had fun were always found with guys who had fun. Girls who were confident and liked themselves were always with guys who liked themselves.
And girls who were flat-out sexy without being a total bitch about it were always with guys who were, well, STRONG.
Powerful.
Sexy.
And Fun.
That got me to work. What if I could work on myself, and be Strong in body, mind and spirit? What if I could get over my shame about sex and desire and just enjoy it without embarrasment? What if I could be Powerful, like the Warrior who fights NOT to attack and take, but only to defend, and to right the wrongs of other people?
What if I could live my life every day doing what I felt was right by other people, and do it with a smile, AND take real pride in knowing what I did was making my life, and my world, better?
And what if I could combine all that good, powerful feeling, with the subtleties of eye contact (the kind that tells her just with a look that you are gonna make her scream your name later in bed), and touch, and a gracefulness of movement and breathing and tonality, AND tease the living hell out of girls like we were on the playground, and she knew if I was pulling her pigtails that I was definitely gonna be putting a Valentine in her mailbox later on.
What if?
Well, turns out being a Powerful Man who Enjoys Sex without Embarrasment and Has Fun All the Time was the real magic trick.
See, women choose men based on one simple question:
"Will I feel better if I'm with him than I feel right now?"
Women are emotion junkies. They crave feeling above all else, and good feeling is the top of the pile. They crave sensual stimulation. Great food, dramatic conversations, romantic movies, and way at the top of it all... Passionate, Intimate, Powerful Love.
Not love like "ohhhhh... you're the best and I love you and you're perfect."
No, I mean Love like "You. Me. Closet. Clothes ripped off. NOW."
All said with a smile, of course.
It's not as easy as learning some pickup line, but it's way easier than going out 8 nights a week to clubs you don't even like to talk to girls you don't even really want.
You make this change by training your body and your brain at the same time. True Power and Courage (the stuff that women all melt for) starts from a feeling inside. And that's exactly what I teach in PSP: Powerful Sexual Presence. There is one exercise we do that in just 30 minutes will totally destroy all Approach Anxiety, and replace it with a feeling of calm that lets her know, for sure, you are the one she wants.
Then the question becomes not "how do I get her to like me?" but rather, "I'll give her the chance to see if I really like her."
If you really want this for yourself, do whatever it takes to join me for PSP. Because after this class, all the jerks are gonna be out of luck. Once women see that there are men who really have what they've been looking for, all the silly little games are done for good.
For great.
Go check out the PSP Exercise, "The Kiss Demo," now at our new PSP Blog, and let us know what you think by leaving your comments!
http://sexualpresence20.wordpress.com/2 ... om2522782/
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BECOMING A REAL MAN
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Holy shit,
I listened to real deal rapport today and it totally blew my mind. I've taken the PickUp101 AoR class and it does not even brush the surface of what Sean talks about. I really wish I'd heard this before I spent $3000 CAD on that workshop, but I'm glad I found it nonetheless.
I have never listened to anything as powerful as Real Deal Rapport.
I'm so sick of using routines, of using pre-planned lines, of having to remember what the next banter line in my routine stack is. I never wanted to live a scripted life, ever, and yet it seemed to me the only way to date beautiful women was to have a hundred stories and gambits to show her how cool I am. I love the simplicity of Real Deal Rapport, the non-script approach. I love the no bullshit approach.
Most of all, I love how it's not all about you, it's about her too. So many of the gurus out there are teaching ways to lay women with that being the only goal. I've always had a problem with this because I want the person I'm with to feel just as good as I do. The fact that Sean teaches this is amazing, it's about fucking time.
At the risk of sounding repetitive, this podclass shattered my perception of dating; it turned my world upside down. I've finally found dating advice that I can feel good about using, and not only that, but something that is also congruent with my personality. I can't wait to join the UCP and take my dating life to not only a whole new level, but into a whole new light, a light where the woman is not just a level to be achieved in a "game."
PS I thought it was pretty funny when Sean referenced the Simpsons with his "ant overlord" comment.
J, Canadia
"We are what we repeatedly do, therefore excellence is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle"
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Jay,
I really have nothing to add. I just like reading this. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Love, Strength, and Big Balls,
Sean
http://lvo3.com