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Author:  Mr. White [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  How to seduce a friend?

Yeah, got a hard case coming here.

Chick is 9-10, we are good friends, been already for some time, and party together pretty often.
Now, when my game is tight in most cases toward new target, as i keep myself pretty good candidate for anykind relationship for any girl. 8)
This time girl already knows what kind i am, what i can offer and so on.
I need to change picture of myself in her own mind.

I sure have joked many times about getting in bed together, as in simple conversation. Taking maybe her good friend with us. ;)

Anyway, i always bring erotic/sexual SPAM with me. I know she doesnt
dislike me, not sure have she tot about me some other way. I know tho she likes me as FRIEND and i am not eager to have anyhing else, but the thoughts about having a chance to seduce her is circuling my mind.

Now, i still keep this pick up thing as theory. Even tho i do believe with right lines, appearance and acting you can seduce almost any woman. Still i think i am more like "Juggler", going spontaneous on things and basing my ideas and appearance on a happening moment.

First thing i have started to do is being abit more distant, socializing more with others. Yeasterday i saw it worked a bit, but need alot more time to see it for sure.

2nd i was thinking to say more times NO, and being maybe a bit negative toward her. We'll see how it will go.

Now, if there some rock hard Pick Up Artists, that can give advices, i sure will listen, and if the right moment occur might even use something.

My mind is my worst enemy, here i am ready to ruin a perfect friendship over a stupid need of desire.

Author:  clareo2 [ Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:16 am ]
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Okay don't take the wrong way, I'm trying to help :D
From your post, it sounds like you don't understand IOIs, also saying no and being negative never accomplishes much (have you been reading Doc Love's "The System"? :? ) The fact is this, juggler isn't really a pickup artist, he's a gifted conversationalist and a rather unique individual so he's hard to copy. His book is good for "lines" but if you have a structure that you can use again and again, you realise its not really about lines.
Also unless you're into NLP or Mode One or something similar, an overtly sexual SPAM doesn't help, remember you're trying to build sexual tension by conveying disinterest.

The Venusian Arts Handbook or the free pickup guide from fast seduction 101 are the best things to start with to get the structure learn off. Also it sounds like you're suffering from a bout of one-itis, if you're good friends already with her it's really not going to happen. Whats more, you're going to sacrifice a resource because as your female friend, she can give you advice on fashion and stuff like that. Also she can act as your female wing when you go out. If you're seen going into a club with her as opposed to being alone, this increases your value a lot. Every pua should have a girlfriend who's just a "friend."

Do a newbie challenge, once you get a couple of hundred of sarges under your belt, you won't feel the need to ask your friend out.

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